Surge Happy
Mohammed of Iraq The Model At PJM is cautiously optimistic, seeing signs of success in the surge as he tours Baghdad.
Clearly, the message sent by Congress yesterday just isn’t getting through. But there’s still time for Democrats to seize defeat!
Uh oh … anti-surge move ebbs in Senate. Resolution party’s over. Surge will just have to go on with them!
Hey Congress. Here’s what Some Soldier’s Mom think about your cheesy non-binding troop undermining vote and your slow-bleed strategy!
Meanwhile, Scott at Town Commons reports the Army just had its best recruiting year in a nearly a decade. Damn, that’s an unpopular war.
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Posted by Jules Crittenden at 3:21 pm on Saturday, February 17, 2007
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February 17th, 2007 at 4:55 pm
Surge Happy
Surge Happy Jules Crittenden Mohammed of Iraq The Model At PJM is cautiously optimistic, seeing signs of success in the surge as he tours Baghdad. Clearly, the message sent by Congress yesterday just isn’t getting through. But there’s still time
February 17th, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Bill’s Nibbles — 2007.02.17
Some Bill’s Bites posts, some things I excerpted and linked but I’m sending you to the original post. I may rearrange the order of the items within this post as I add new things that I think belong above the
February 17th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
Trouble is, we won’t know if we’ve succeeded in Iraq or not until we pull all of our troops out.
Adding troops four years in would seem to be an admission of failure, thoough.
Unless you’re making money off the troops, of course.
Then the surge is indeed a success.
Christmas in February for the war profiteers.
February 17th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Adding troops four years in would seem to be an admission of failure, thoough.
The troop strength curve in WWII looked like what?
February 17th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Ahh,
WWII was long over by now, PA.
The troops were already home.
And except for a few sporty months, we were on a clear path to victory all during WWII.
An also, during WWII, the government regulated industry and consumers.
Funny the wingnuts never bring that up when thy’re making their laughable comparisons between Iraq and WWII.
February 17th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
“And except for a few sporty months, we were on a clear path to victory all during WWII.”
Aside from the crass cynicism and utter disrespect he displays, the depth of ignorance evidenced by this statement is truly astonishing, It tells me, and anyone else who actually knows the history, exactly how much to credit anything the author has to say.
February 17th, 2007 at 8:12 pm
I don’t have my Wingnut History Book of the Month membership, salty.
I admit it.
Everything that ever happened in history shows why we should stay in Iraq forever?
That sum up the entire wingnut knowledge of history?
February 17th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Gosh alphie, you have loads of friends at ProteinWisdom
February 17th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
WWII was long over by now, PA.
The troops were already home.
I would like to remind this astounding ignoramus that we still have troops in Japan and Europe sixty years after WWII ended.
That sum up the entire wingnut knowledge of history?
Apparently “wingnuts” have a better handle on history than you, Alphie. I don’t suppose you can help the education you obviously didn’t receive, but you might want to learn a few things before you display how embarrassingly deficient you truly are.
February 17th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
How many troops do we have in Vietnam these days, Reb?
WWII was a fluke…stop acting like it’s a model.
February 17th, 2007 at 9:42 pm
How many troops do we have in Vietnam these days
A number insufficient to prevent the slaughter of 3 million or so.
February 17th, 2007 at 9:43 pm
during WWII, the government regulated industry and consumers.
And should again. You want “shared sacrifice” right?
February 17th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
“How many troops do we have in Vietnam these days, Reb?”
At the end of the Vietnam War, there reportedly were 2,583 unaccounted for American prisoners, missing or killed in action/body not recovered. As of January 31, 2007, 1,788 Americans are still so listed by the Defense Department, over 90% of them in Vietnam or in areas of Laos and Cambodia where Vietnamese forces operated during the war.
This is how many, alphie
“WWII was a fluke”
Surely you mean this kind of fluke, right alphie?
1. any of several American flounders of the genus Paralichthys, esp. P. dentatus, found in the Atlantic Ocean.
2. any of various other flatfishes.
3. a trematode.
Maybe THIS kind of fluke, right alphie?
1. the part of an anchor that catches in the ground, esp. the flat triangular piece at the end of each arm.
2. a barb, or the barbed head, of a harpoon, spear, arrow, or the like.
3. either half of the triangular tail of a whale.
Because if you meant THIS kind of fluke, alphie
1. an accidental advantage; stroke of good luck: He got the job by a fluke.
2. an accident or chance happening.
3. an accidentally successful stroke, as in billiards.
You’re a bigger piece of shit, than the folks at protein wisdom or here, or anywhere you post think. BTW, your Blog, is a piece of shit, too…Figures though, a piece of shit typed it…you.
February 17th, 2007 at 10:05 pm
Cliff, 40 years of post-WWII propaganda has clouded America’s role in WWII.
We showed up at the end and grabbed a modest amount of glory.
The Soviet role in winning WWII was erased to provide the next big threat for the war boys to milk.
Look at Iraq if you want to see a war based on wingnut fantasy and myth.
Nobody around this time to do the dirty work.
Goin’ real good, ain’t it?
February 17th, 2007 at 10:45 pm
Folks, if you read alphie’s comments at Protein Wisdom, you will find that he is a whinging, answer circling, non-listening, clueless clown. If you think his comments here concerning WWI are stupid, I assure you, he has yet to demonstrate his full non-potential in the cognitive arena.
It’s better to ignore this fool. Anything else is a waste of pixels.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:35 am
The leech is lucky to be living in a country where he can survive as a parasite existing off the efforts of his betters, even though he is too stupid to live–in the full Darwinian sense. Of course, a real leech doesn’t choose to be a leech, so calling him one slanders all leeches. My apologies to the leeches.
February 18th, 2007 at 9:25 am
I realize it IS a waste of time and effort The_Real_JeffS. Should he/she/it want to continue pontification of left wing thoughts and revision of historical words, deeds and fact, to fortify those it its ilk, he/she/it can do so on its own Blog. IT can do it anywhere actually, thanks to people and freedoms granted to IT by the very people IT disparages.
But, I will leave IT with some tidbits, that IT (although in a thread below, I did link to one) can fumble fart the this vast medium that Al Gore invented. Thereafter, IT, by me, will be ignored.
“The Soviet role in winning WWII was erased to provide the next big threat for the war boys to milk.”
From the Iran in Circles, thread…..
“Lend-Lease was the most visible sign of wartime cooperation between the United States and the Soviet Union. About $11 billion in war material was sent to the Soviet Union under that program. Additional assistance came from U.S. Russian War Relief (a private, nonprofit organization) and the Red Cross. About seventy percent of the aid reached the Soviet Union via the Persian Gulf through Iran; the remainder went across the Pacific to Vladivostok and across the North Atlantic to Murmansk.”
“Lend-Lease helped the Soviet Union push the Germans out of its territory and Eastern Europe, thus accelerating the end of the war. With Stalin’s takeover of Eastern Europe, the wartime alliance ended, and the Cold War began.”
Without that 11 BILLION, genius. The Soviet Union wouldn’t have made it past Red Square. Although the Soviets did have manpower and for the fact that Stalin was going to kill most if not all of those (think purges and gulags) regardless, why not throw them to the Germans. God forbid one was a Jew, for it mattered not, German totalitarianism or Soviet totalitarianism.
“Cliff, 40 years of post-WWII propaganda has clouded America’s role in WWII”.
“We showed up at the end and grabbed a modest amount of glory.”
After France had fallen in 1940, the United Kingdom was out of money. Franklin Roosevelt persuaded the U.S. Congress to pass the Lend-Lease act on March 11, 1941, which provided the United Kingdom and 37 other countries with US$50 billion dollars in military equipment and other supplies, US$31.4 billion of it going to the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth. Canada operated a similar program that sent $4.7 billion in supplies to the United Kingdom.
Without the 50 BILLION, and the Canadian close to 5 BILLION, genius (oh forgot, to whom I was typing 11 BILLION of the 50 BILLION went to YOUR hero Stalin) The U.K. despite it bravery was “out of money” and if the U.K. was out of money and material, one would imagine that the “37 other countries” were “out of money” AND material and/or the means to produce such (oh yeah, forgot again and the 11 BILLION to Stalin) one can imagine what would have happened. But then, you possess NO imagination. Your synapses don’t work, mainly because you are void of the material that synapses typically use.
The U.S. and its allies, Australia, (who had the lead in several instances, including WW I) along with the Brits, the Canadians and several others, including the resistance movements of those affected by totalitarianism and left to their own devices when their leaders cut and run, fought a two front war, exception, your hero Stalin who it seems was busy signing non aggression pacts (Germany AND Japan) with the main offenders and the reason or reasons for that very two front war.
“Nobody around this time to do the dirty work.”
The U.S. has always answered the call, of “the dirty work”, left by others. France comes to mind in Vietnam. Your Hero’Lands the Soviets and the Red Chinese, come to mind in Korea. The Soviet Union, comes to mind in Afghanistan. The Slavic’s come to mind in the Balkan region. The Islamists come to mind in today’s world. A world they wish to dominate, with an evil cult.
The thought of the Islamists sawing your head off (ON CAMERA) and those of your ilk, does have a pleasant air to it though. But alas, the U.S. and its allies will do their damn best to prevent that. That “dirty work”, you know.
As I typed earlier…”I will leave IT with some tidbits, that IT (although in a thread below, I did link to one) can fumble fart through this vast medium that Al Gore invented. Thereafter, IT, by me, will be ignored.”
You are an idiot. I doubt you will achieve the next step of proficiency, imbecile. The next level, moron, is completely out of your grasp.
Oh, did you know the Japanese ,during WW II named a plane after you. The ZERO.
February 18th, 2007 at 11:27 am
I agree that it’s a waste of time and energy to argue with an idiot who’s only in it for the argument. On the other hand, it truly takes my breath away to actually see someone describe a world war (conducted in two parts, I and II, over forty years) as a “fluke”, in which the United States deserves no credit. Ladies and gentlemen, here is Alphie: ignorant, obtuse, anti-American, anti-freedom, self-righteous hater.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Alphie’s understanding of WWII is remarkable idiotic-even for him. Just a quick note-in 1940, while the UK was busy with the Nazis pretty much all by themselves (excepting the honorable contributions of commonwealth partners Canada, Australia and New Zealand) the Soviets were helping carve up Poland.
Stalin then abandoned his carefully prepared defenses in the western USSR to consolidate his position in eastern Poland, opening the door for operation Barbarosa. By that time, though, the Brits had dealt with the Luftwaffe and kept up a steady blockade of Europe-slowly strangling Germany.
We got into the war after the war came to us. We contributed significantly to the effort in Europe and dealt with the Japanese virtually single-handedly. Without us there was no real threat of invasion in France (or Italy), without that Hitler could have moved more of his forces into the east, beyond that who can say what the outcome would have been.
I’ve heard the “The Soviets did it all” theory of WWII too many times to let it stand unanswered. Apparently the Marxist revisionists who make up a significant part of our academy have shoved it wholesale into the young minds full of mush.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:53 pm
The Soviets made a deal with Hitler, who corncobbed them (with Stalin’s hearty cooperation) soon after Polad was “consolidated”. Those millions of dead Soviets were a direct result of that pact with the Devil. They fought bravely against the Nazis, but I don’t see their contribution as strategically vital in WWII.
February 18th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
America declared war on Germany in late 1941, Cav.
We got around to attacking German troops in 1943…in Africa.
The Soviets on the Eastern Front accounted for 90% of the Nazi soldiers killed during WWII.
Spread the remaining 10% of the credit for defeating Hilter however you want.
February 18th, 2007 at 2:27 pm
America declared war on Germany in late 1941, Cav.
Wrong-Germany declared war on America.
We got around to attacking German troops in 1943…in Africa.
Also wrong-operation Torch was in 1942 and was intended to stop Rommels efforts from trying to control mideast oil.
Of the 91,000 Germans taken prisoner at Stalingrad on 6,000 ever returned home. German prisoners sent to U.S. POW camps fared much better, but by alphie’s reasoning we should have killed more of them so that we could take more credit for the victory.
You really are a first-rate tool alphie.
February 18th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
In order to credit the alph, we must ignore the fact that Hitler was directly responsible for the deaths of fully half of that 90%. Stalin killed as many, if not more, of his own as the Germans did. Actual human beings are just so much fodder to totalitarian tyrants. And to alphs, who sniff at the tremendous loss of life involved in the convoys taking material to Britain and Soviet Russia before America officially entered the European war, materials without which our future allies would not have survived long enough to be saved by us or anybody else. Not enough human sacrifice to sate an alph. Not nearly enough.
It is telling, however, that its complaint is that not enough Americans died to deserve credit in its eyes– and, I suspect, the fact that it was America’s business expertise and capacity that allowed the Allies of all stripes to win is also a sore spot causing irritation. That’s almost like cheating, throwing material instead of bodies.
I met many alphs in the 60s and 70s. Notice that today’s alphs rarely feel the need to physically act to acquire their nourishment. Today they can simply sit in front of a computer–a much safer method of feeding. I suspect this is why we don’t see more of them marching in the streets this time around.
In the end, the alphs of the world are nothing but powerless second-handers. An alph cannot exist except as a parasite on the mental work of others, be they yea- or nay-sayers. As in most cases of human parasitism, the alph depends on the voluntary participation of its host. What it dreads the most is that the host will cease to acquiesce in the feed. Deny an alph a host, and like all parasites, it will slither off to feed elsewhere.
February 18th, 2007 at 4:40 pm
Why not go all the way and call me a dirty hippy, salty?
I don’t mean to denigrate America’s effort in the fight against Nazi Germany, but it was modest compared to the Soviets effort.
Anyone who uses it as a guide to our war in Iraq is being a rather sloppy propagandist.
There is no comparison between the two.
February 19th, 2007 at 2:04 am
See what I mean, folks? alphie is effectively fellating a dead murderous tyrant (Stalin) by ignoring the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939*.
Still, I suppose that if you look at the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact from the perspective of Nazi Germany, yes, the Soviets did make a significant effort in WWII. By being a base contributor to the start of that conflict…..and costing them dearly in terms of casualties before it ended. Dead bodies all around, that’s what the Soviet Union contributed to the world during the period 1939 to 1945.
Hmmmmmm…..which means that alphie is actually fellating two dead murderous tyrants: Stalin and Hitler, a veritable menage a trois. What would it take to include Mussolini and Tojo as well in this comfortable arrangement?
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*: History challenged readers, please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov-Ribbentrop_Pact for details; the article is fairly well balanced (for Wikipedia, I mean).
February 19th, 2007 at 2:11 am
We supported Saddam before we were against him, Jeff.
Are you saying all our troops dying in Iraq deserve to die?
February 19th, 2007 at 11:04 am
Ah, a brilliant display of lackluster cognitive abilities!
Watch closely as alphie ceases fellating Hitler and Stalin, leaps over Mussolini and Tojo, and turns to necrophilia with dead US troops, using Hussein as a pimp.
A classic example of non-sequitors and mindless reiteration of dead talking points in a pathetic attempt to divert the thread away from his display of a massive ignorance of history.
Specifically, alphies’ contention that the Soviet Union made a significant contribution to WWII conveniently ignores the fact that Stalin cooperated closely with Hitler by carving up Europe through a secret treaty known as the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact. Thus, the contribution of alphie’s favorite totalitarian state to WWII was indeed significnat…..merely not in the benign and beneficial fashion that he would have us believe.
Prior to Operation Barbarossa, the Soviet Union contributed directly to the war effort of Nazi Germany and the Axis Powers by enabling their ability to conquer most of Europe. After 22 June 1941, the Soviet Union contributed directly to the Allied war effort…..but only after massive subsidies of war materiel from the United States.
The WWII contribution by the USSR can be expressed simplistically by:
(Post Operation Barbarossa war effort) - (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) - (Allied support of USSR war effort) at best the Soviet Union broke even morally and ethically at the end of WWII. And only went downhill from there.
February 19th, 2007 at 11:06 am
Rats! That should be:
(Post Operation Barbarossa war effort) - (Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact) - (Allied support of USSR war effort) “less than or equal to” zero.
At best, the Soviet Union broke even morally and ethically at the end of WWII. And only went downhill from there until their collapse in 1989, thank God.