Saudi “King” Thinks “Illegal” US Occupation of Iraq Should End
… that’s funny, I was just thinking the same thing about the occupation of Arabia for the past 100 years by a tribe of backward thugs from the desert whose descendants to this day make their women wear gunny sacks over their heads and give our money to terrorists in places like … Iraq. Same crowd that was more than happy to have us come in and keep Saddam at bay. How about that.
Here’s the king:
“In the beloved Iraq, the bloodshed is continuing under an illegal foreign occupation and detestable sectarianism.”
Interesting. At last report, Saudi money was underwriting that detestable sectarianism.
He did say at least one true thing:
“The blame should fall on us, the leaders of the Arab nation, with our ongoing differences, our refusal to walk the path of unity.”
But he was far too kind on himself and his audience, and I doubt, as does the New York Times, that Abdullah actually wants that “illegal” occupation to end any time soon. That would require Arabs and other Muslims to stop killing Arabs and other Muslims over beefs that date back 1,400 years. And they are not ready to do that.
The Wisdom only Protein brings:
“Sure, but can you really blame them? Because If I had access to stallions and those cool curvy scimitars, I’d be keen on lopping off a few heads my own self, I think … I mean, WHY CAN’T I PUT MY WOMAN IN A SACK AND COMPEL HER TO FEED ME DATES AND FIGS?”
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Posted by Jules Crittenden at 1:11 am on Thursday, March 29, 2007
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March 29th, 2007 at 1:15 am
Looks like the king done put a fork in the neocon’s phony surge.
Oh, dear.
March 29th, 2007 at 2:46 am
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March 29th, 2007 at 2:47 am
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March 29th, 2007 at 3:29 am
It is absolutely sickening that anybody would take joy in the possible failure of Iraq’s security and future–stick a fork in the fake surge, Alphie–The numbers are proving it is working. The Iraqi government is making major changes to bring about peace as well, the hydrocarbon law and new Baath reconciliation plan.
Saudi Arabia has decided to stab us in the back because it sees the dhimmicrats doing everything they can to evicerate the war and it thinks Bush is all done. The Saudis are misreading American politics–they do not understand the US consitution or our history. Alphie is also similarly misiformed, ignorant. Congress does not have the power it prentends to. It has weakened us in the eyes of ours allies and enemies by its very posturing. It has given the enemy hope and in doing so cost Iraqi and American lives. Pelosi and Murtha ET AL have blood on their hands for their cowardly political ploy. They are the true enemies of freedom and peace.
No doubt Alphie is a defeatist dhimmicrat. Regardless of politics, this issues is far to important to let that intrude. Unless all one can think about is the next election, like Nancy Pelosi or Maggot Murtha. Read Dangerous Demagoguery by Thomas Sowell, it captures Nancy Pelosi’s complete lack of comprehension of the stakes at hand. She is smiling like some grotesque prom queen after passing this pork lading bribe of a bill to kill victory.
Several month back when I read the Saudis and other Gulf states were aligning against Iran I thought that was a turning point in the war. They did avert a coup in Lebanon. At what cost, though. Now we come to find out what kind of loyalty the Saudis have. Well, Alphie, the Iraqis have shown recently they firmly resent the Saudis thinking they can speak for the entire region or dictate Iraq policy. For you see, Iraq is neither Arab nor Persian, it has it’s own identity and it won’t soon forget what we did for them.
Read ARAB’S LAST CHANCE by Ralph Peters for a honest write up of what Arab culture has created. King Abdullah makes me sick. Demanding the West drop its embargo on Hamas. Hell no, you support them. As it is we should start designating Saudi Arabia as a State Sponsor of Terror. Prince Saud threatening Israel,–If Israel refuses, that means it doesn’t want peace and it places everything back into the hands of fate. They will be putting their future not in the hands of the peacemakers but in the hands of the lords of war–Israel needs Netanyahu like never before.
March 29th, 2007 at 3:49 am
What “numbers” are those, 4iraq?
Kindly post some objective measure of the surge’s success or failure.
March 29th, 2007 at 7:52 am
Numbers for Alphie–stick to blogging about turtles and puffy haired politicians. You’re in over your head.
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Notes From Baghdad
Open liquor stores and other signs of the surge’s success.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110009754
BY MOHAMMED FADHIL AND OMAR FADHIL
Wednesday, March 7, 2007 12:01 a.m.
The Iraqi people themselves are playing their role in the plan. Recent figures from U.S. officers in Baghdad show that the joint forces have been receiving an average of 250 security tips from civilians since the beginning of the operation, about twice previous figures. With help from a government-appointed committee, people in some Baghdad neighborhoods are returning occupied mosques to their original keepers and worshippers, and holding joint prayers between the two sects in mixed neighborhoods.
We feel safer about moving in the city now, and politicians who used to hide behind the walls of the Green Zone are venturing out. Watching Mr. Maliki walking on Palestine Street in central Baghdad gave a positive impression that the state, and not the gangs, owns the streets.
Military-wise, the results are not humble either; hundreds of militants have been killed, more hundreds arrested, and dozens of weapons caches discovered and destroyed. The frequency of attacks has declined drastically, and the terrifying scene of bullet-riddled bodies has become a rarer incident.
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US captures car-bombing ring in Iraq
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/US-captures-carbombing-ring-in-Iraq/2007/03/27/1174761444748.html#
The US military has captured the leaders of a car-bombing ring blamed for killing hundreds of Iraqis.
The news came as the departing US ambassador said Americans are in ongoing talks with insurgent representatives to try to persuade them to turn against al-Qaeda.
The US command said one of the car-bombers, Haitham al-Shimari, was suspected in the “planning and execution of the majority of car bombs which have killed hundreds of Iraqi citizens in Sadr City,” a Shi’ite enclave of Baghdad.
Another, identified as Haidar al-Jafar, was second-in-command of a cell that killed some 900 “innocent” Iraqis and wounded almost 2,000, the military said. Three other men believed connected to that cell also were in custody.
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Violence slashed as troop surge hits Baghdad
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article1530529.ece
“We were so scared; anybody could be followed and assassinated.”
Figures released last week by Brigadier Qassim al-Moussawi, an Iraqi military spokesman, showed civilian deaths down from 1,440 in the four weeks before the surge began on February 14 to 265 in the four weeks that followed, although there may have been some undercounting. According to the American military, assassination attempts were down by 50%.
In Fallujah and Ramadi…Extra US troops have seen civilian deaths drop from 1,440 in the month before to 265 after
March 29th, 2007 at 7:57 am
Did you see and read the thread Jules devoted to you Tuesday, alphie? You make all of us so proud.
This one. Moronocy of Dunces. I thought for sure you would comment, as you accepted your award.
March 29th, 2007 at 8:10 am
The Saudi king’s own comments suggest that the surge is working just fine. There is no need to call for the voluntary end to an “illegal occupation” that is failing on its own.
March 29th, 2007 at 8:18 am
Saudi Arabia, since its establishment (1932) with of the House of Saud going back many centuries, is THE true definition of the derogatory term, Ali Baba’s, along with the Persian variety.
Someone back then, (1932) or before, should have quashed these Wahhabis, (and Persians) given them Camels to ride through the desert, forever.
March 29th, 2007 at 8:28 am
Oil Tick Denounces U.S.
This piece of garbage should thanks his stars we stopped Saddam Hussein back in 1991. Considering 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers came from his hellhole, he has a hell of a lot of nerve talking such trash.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Maybe we should make it a policy to demand the end of the illegal occupation of formerly non-Islamic countries by Islam. That would be… um, nearly all of them.
March 29th, 2007 at 10:59 am
People like Alphie are a perfect example of the current democratic mindset. Pelosi, Murtha, and especially Rahm Emanuel for his slash and burn, get nothing done politics, just to make the other guy look bad so we get elected in ‘08.
Alphie making jokes about a potential failed stated, how sick is that?
I visited the liberal blogger site “the nation” for the article “Iraq Deadline: An Extraordinary Political Moment”. The Liberals think they speak for the entire nation right now–”Democrats did not create this new dynamic–it arose volcano-like from the American people–but Democrats have had the wisdom to embrace it.” They think the have a mandate for defeat.
In the comments section all the participants were focusing all political strategy, never once mentioning the Iraqi people in some 90 comments. Some mocked Bush for “fighting evil to the tune of mighty mouse tune”. These people have no clue as to what message failing to put down this insurgency sends to our allies and enemies. If we fail, we can plan of fighting asymmetric wars all over the globe for the rest of the twenty-first century. This will result in unimaginably massive civilian casualties and damage to infrastructure, and loss of “global prestige”. On the other hand if we let Petreaus work his plan, with mini bases through the city that disrupt the insurgents and protect the citizens, the message to our friends and foes will be booming. Plus we will have a doctrine for beating insurgencies.
Asymmetric warfare makes liberals hysterical—terrorists count on it.
More liberal blogging from THE NATION—“Where is the downside? I do not see any downside. If Bush does not veto then our troops come home. If Bush does veto then our troops come home sooner.”–Posted by TUCANOFULANO 03/28/2007 @ 5:19pm
NO DOWNSIDE?
Nihilistic Peter Beinart tells the Democrats—“Just go for it” the American public has a short memory and you won’t suffer politically. Just like they forgot about the slaughtered Vietnamese and Cambodians they’ll soon forget about the Iraqi blood bath. His fetid foreign policy advice hangs in the air like week old diapers. Morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest he obfuscates facts and flippantly compares disparate historical events to hide his party’s complicity.
Read Beinart’s “Return of the Nixon Doctrine”
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1574151,00.html
Then read Victor Davis Hanson mocking him for his lack of historical perspective and impatience. Beinart is a classic Monday morning quarter back–backseat driver foreign policy analyst.
Global Schizophrenia
By Victor Davis Hanson
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/01/global_schizophrenia.html
March 29th, 2007 at 11:12 am
Web Reconnaissance for 03/29/2007
A short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention.
March 29th, 2007 at 11:20 am
"Saudi King Condemns U.S. Occupation of Iraq"
From the New York Times:King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia told Arab leaders on Wednesday that the American occupation of Iraq is “illegal,” and he warned that unless Arab governments settle their differences, foreign powers like the United Stat…
March 29th, 2007 at 12:11 pm
Is Bush running again in 2008, 4iraq?
That will come as quite a surprise to a lot of people.
March 29th, 2007 at 3:00 pm
Is Bush running again in 2008, 4iraq?
You deduced that from what was written, did you?
Gosh, no wonder that thread was dedicated to you, and your ilk.
You really make us proud, alphie. Your friend and one remaining family member still love you though, but Moms are usually like that..
March 29th, 2007 at 3:14 pm
El Cid,
It’s amazing what the pro war crowd tries to attribute the plummeting popularity of your “leaders and your “war” to.
It’s not ideological.
It’s not personal.
It’s just business.
You guys are too incompetent to fight a war in America’s name..
The sooner you realize that, the better.
March 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
You guys are too incompetent to fight a war in America’s name..
LOL.
And “You Guys are too incompetent to” know there is “a war in America’s name“, going on.
Oh, “It’s not personal”, “It’s just business”. “The sooner you realize that, the better.”
March 29th, 2007 at 10:50 pm
What’s it all about, alphie?
Is it just for the moment we live?
What’s it all about when you sort it out, alphie?
Are we meant to take more than we give
or are we meant to be kind?
And if only fools are kind, alphie,
then I guess it’s wise to be cruel.
And if life belongs only to the strong, alphie,
what will you lend on an old golden rule?
As sure as I believe there’s a heaven above, alphie,
I know there’s something much more,
something even non-believers can believe in.
I believe in love, alphie.
Without true love we just exist, alphie.
Until you find the love you’ve missed you’re nothing, alphie.
When you walk let your heart lead the way
and you’ll find love any day, alphie, alphie.
March 30th, 2007 at 1:20 am
Somewhere the opposition to this war has got it in to their heads there is such a thing as an immaculate war, a clean war, a war without mistakes. Ask any reputable historian, it does not exist.
What the US tried to do in Iraq was unprecented in history, to liberate an enemy from it’s leadership while keeping it’s population alive and infrastructure intact. The US tried to do this while simultaneously installing a foreign form of government, one that was 180 degrees from what they were used to.
Usually, all remnants of opposition, or insurgency, in any war would be brutally crushed before any new government would be put in place. In layman’s terms we tried to put the cart before the horse. This was a noble in theory but naive in practice considering the opposition we would likely face from former Baath party member now out of work, Iraq’s neighbors who had no intention of having a democracy next door, and terrorists eager to earn their “bones” by killing GI’s. Add to this botched planning by members of the Bush Administration and Bremer’s moronic short sightedness in keeping over a hundred factories shut down and tens of thousands of men out of work and bitter–ripe fodder for the insurgency.
The American person we chose to oversee Iraq’s Ministry of Industry and Minerals one Timothy M. Carney. He quit in disgust after repeatedly pointing this and other errors out to Bremer. Well, contrary to liberal belief, the Bush Administration does learn from it’s mistakes. It has reached out to Carney and re-hired him to head Iraq’s reconstruction. He is a fascinating individual with great insight and experience in some of the most dangerous spots in the world. He does not rattle when confronted with chaos.
That brings me to my point. As Fred Thompson states, “wars are full of mistakes”
WALLACE: What would you do now in Iraq?
THOMPSON: I would do essentially what the president’s doing. I know it’s not popular right now, but I think we have to look down the road and consider the consequences of where we are.
We’re the leader of the free world whether we like it or not. People are looking to us to test our resolve and see what we’re willing to do in resolving the situation that we have there. People think that if we hadn’t gone down there, things would have been lovely.
If Saddam Hussein was still around today with his sons looking at Iran developing a nuclear capability, he undoubtedly would have reconstituted his nuclear capability. Things would be worse than what they are today.
We’ve got to rectify the mistakes that we’ve made. We went in there too light, wrong rules of engagement, wrong strategy, placed too much emphasis on just holding things in place while we built up the Iraqi army, took longer than we figured.
Wars are full of mistakes. You rectify things. I think we’re doing that now. We’re coming in with good people. We’re coming in with a lot of different people. I know General Petraeus from when he was in Tennessee at Fort Campbell. He believes in the plan. He’s convinced me that they can do the job.
Why would we not take any chance, even though there’s certainly no guarantees, to not be run out of that place? I mean, we’ve got to take that opportunity and give it a chance to work.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/03/fred_thompson_maxine_waters_ro.html
So, no Alphie, I’m not voting for Bush. That comment of yours is does not bode well for you. I’ve offered you many paths of entry to add to the debate and that’s the best you can do?
I think it will come down to Giuliani or Thompson. I’m leaning towards Thompson. He is a man who does not equivocate or check polls to find out where he stands on an issue. I am actually an independent conservative. I would vote for Leiberman if he were running just based on the strength of his convictions.
As far as this statement you attribute to the right “It’s not ideological. It’s not personal. It’s just business.” I’ve never heard it before, nor would I make such an one-dimensional explanation. Human beings may claim to be cold calculating machines, as Michael Corleone does in GD1, but I don’t buy it. It is personal. Sure there can be business aspects mixed in but if someone shoots your father, is it not personal? Should we not have a personal grugde with Revolutionary Iran for the hostage crisis in 1979?, the marine baracks in 1983, the kidnappings in the 80’s in Lebanon and killing of CIA station chief, the Khoblar towers in 1996, the EFPs killing our troops, etc. Just as it is a personal obsession with the Iranian Revolution to destroy the US. It is not business.
But as Ruel Marc Gerecht points out the Iranian Revolution’s ideology has always run runshod of business pragmatism. Case in point, Iran blew up the Khoblar towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996 using the Saudi wing of Hezbollah killing 19 US service and injuring hundreds. Recently, the Government of Iran was ordered to pay 254 million dollars to the survivors families by a US court. Iran conducted this act of terror 3 weeks before they applied for entry into the WTO.
And what did the Clinton Administration do? Nothing. In fact, they made overtures to issue a grand apology through Madeline Albright for all our past wrongs to Iran. This was brushed aside by Khameni. For you see Iran will never re-establish diplomatic ties with the US for it would go against everything they stand for.
So, Alphie, Clinton had casus belli against Iran. His director of the FBI, Louis Freeh told him they were responsible after thorough investigation. And he choose to come them as a supine dog further diminishing their respect for our response to their aggression and murder of our citizens. What wars would the democrats prosecute against State Sponsors of Terror? You say the Republicans are too incompetent to fight a war in America’s name. What would it take to get the democrats to launch a war against Iran? Jim Webb wants to protect Iran from attack with a provision so there would be no funds for a war with Iran. John Edwards wants to sign a non-aggression treaty with Iran. Is he sniffing glue? Iran only knows aggression, sedition, and terror; that is their statecraft.
Alphie, for the record, Crittenden’s readers are not “warmongers”. None of us love war. We hate it. When it occurs we want it to be concluded in a just fashion using all resourses available so that the enemies of freedom have their hearts ripped out and they can no longer threaten the weak. There is no middle ground. If Iran and Syria were to fall the rate of terrorism would plummet by at least half–more likely two thirds. Seeing this maybe Saudi Arabia would get the message and shut down its hate factories, the salafist school system, and clamp down of funding of terrorists.
It is the useful idiots of the peace movements that actually prolong suffering the world over. Terrorists and tyrants love you guys. The Hezbollah media machine posts a few staged images on the web an you’re screaming for a “truce”. Generation after generation the peace movements either prevent entry into a war or get in the way of concluding a war when it doesn’t fit your narrow liberal constructs or limited historical referances. WWII was only 4.3 years so this war should only be 4.2 years. Nonsense. This will take endurance. Perseverance. Petreaus in digging in for many years to come. That’s what it will take to defeat this insurgency, not becuase of incompetency, because of the realities of war.
March 30th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
WWII was only 4.3 years so this war …
The Nazis invaded Czechoslovakia in 1939.
Poland was an independent nation in 1938…the Soviets invaded in 1939…when did they leave? ‘89 or so……