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		<title>By: Grimmy</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-28961</link>
		<dc:creator>Grimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 17:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>corndog:

You like to throw around terms and concepts like you think you actually have a clue.

&quot;The Rumsfeld Doctrine&quot; that you so love to puke out your worthless suckhole like it actually has significance refers to using troop levels that actually existed and could be logistically supported, as different from the magic wand wishes of those who&#039;s heads were still working around the numbers prior to the &quot;Peace Dividend&quot; or other asshats who confuse the total number of US military personnel with those specifically useful to an actual deployment specifically for a land war.

As in all things actually functional, logistics logistics logistics is the primary limiter on force deployment.

And as to your line of absolutely ignorant and generally intellectually inbred reasoning on the munitions.

Listen up numbnuts. The depots were secured as best as could be secured under the constraints of a real life maneuver battle during the invasion phase and security was increased significantly afterwards. 

Most of what has been used by your friends in the insurgency against the government of Iraq and the Coalition Forces comes from positions abandoned by Saddamites as their army was collapsing and/or were prepositioned by Saddamite loyalists to supply an uprising/insurrection after the forces collapsed. 

There have actually been some incidences of intrusion and theft by your friends in the murder/death cult from established munitions dumps. These things are unfortunately par for the course in a chaotic environment. Such is life when dealing with actual reality. You demonstrate your &quot;reality&quot; of being nothing more than the degenerate snark driven bullcrap of those who suck up and swallow every tidbit and morsel of enemy propaganda as divine truth.

And as to your pathetic mewling about the museum, that was looted of anything of value long before Coalition Forces entered Baghdad. 

Keep running your suck. Keep reminding us what side of the firing line you&#039;re on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>corndog:</p>
<p>You like to throw around terms and concepts like you think you actually have a clue.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Rumsfeld Doctrine&#8221; that you so love to puke out your worthless suckhole like it actually has significance refers to using troop levels that actually existed and could be logistically supported, as different from the magic wand wishes of those who&#8217;s heads were still working around the numbers prior to the &#8220;Peace Dividend&#8221; or other asshats who confuse the total number of US military personnel with those specifically useful to an actual deployment specifically for a land war.</p>
<p>As in all things actually functional, logistics logistics logistics is the primary limiter on force deployment.</p>
<p>And as to your line of absolutely ignorant and generally intellectually inbred reasoning on the munitions.</p>
<p>Listen up numbnuts. The depots were secured as best as could be secured under the constraints of a real life maneuver battle during the invasion phase and security was increased significantly afterwards. </p>
<p>Most of what has been used by your friends in the insurgency against the government of Iraq and the Coalition Forces comes from positions abandoned by Saddamites as their army was collapsing and/or were prepositioned by Saddamite loyalists to supply an uprising/insurrection after the forces collapsed. </p>
<p>There have actually been some incidences of intrusion and theft by your friends in the murder/death cult from established munitions dumps. These things are unfortunately par for the course in a chaotic environment. Such is life when dealing with actual reality. You demonstrate your &#8220;reality&#8221; of being nothing more than the degenerate snark driven bullcrap of those who suck up and swallow every tidbit and morsel of enemy propaganda as divine truth.</p>
<p>And as to your pathetic mewling about the museum, that was looted of anything of value long before Coalition Forces entered Baghdad. </p>
<p>Keep running your suck. Keep reminding us what side of the firing line you&#8217;re on.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
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		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:44:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Not for the munition depots, corndog. The plan there was to destroy the munitions or bury them.&quot;

Dude.  The al Qaqaa depot (remember that one?) had 380 tons of ultra high explosives, and it was secured in 10 bunkers.  It was on the list of locations to be secured, but after the invasion,  while we installed security around the Oil Ministry, no one bothered with al qaqaa.  Result? Much of the explosives were looted.  Are you trying to tell me it made no difference that this happened?  Are you trying to tell me this couldn&#039;t have been prevented?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not for the munition depots, corndog. The plan there was to destroy the munitions or bury them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dude.  The al Qaqaa depot (remember that one?) had 380 tons of ultra high explosives, and it was secured in 10 bunkers.  It was on the list of locations to be secured, but after the invasion,  while we installed security around the Oil Ministry, no one bothered with al qaqaa.  Result? Much of the explosives were looted.  Are you trying to tell me it made no difference that this happened?  Are you trying to tell me this couldn&#8217;t have been prevented?</p>
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		<title>By: AW1 Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10725</link>
		<dc:creator>AW1 Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fellers,

    And don&#039;t forget, when discussing the extent of the munitions there, that we are talking about an area the size of California. That still takes time.

    For goodness sakes, French EOD groups are STILL finding stuff left over from WWI, let alone UXB&#039;s from WWII. There are literally hundreds of chemical shells dug up each year in France, and farmers there still get blowen up on a rtegular basis, so it&#039;s not like Iraq is an isolated example.

   Respects,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fellers,</p>
<p>    And don&#8217;t forget, when discussing the extent of the munitions there, that we are talking about an area the size of California. That still takes time.</p>
<p>    For goodness sakes, French EOD groups are STILL finding stuff left over from WWI, let alone UXB&#8217;s from WWII. There are literally hundreds of chemical shells dug up each year in France, and farmers there still get blowen up on a rtegular basis, so it&#8217;s not like Iraq is an isolated example.</p>
<p>   Respects,</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10722</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 17:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for the munition depots, corndog.  The plan there was to destroy the munitions or bury them.  I had some minor involvement in the munitions problem, by the way, so it&#039;s not like I&#039;m pulling talking points out of my ass (unlike some people who comment here).  

More to the point, we were not discussing the troop build up and re-equipping them.  Which I was there for also, by the way, so kindly take your conflating, condescending ignorance and stuff it up your oubliette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for the munition depots, corndog.  The plan there was to destroy the munitions or bury them.  I had some minor involvement in the munitions problem, by the way, so it&#8217;s not like I&#8217;m pulling talking points out of my ass (unlike some people who comment here).  </p>
<p>More to the point, we were not discussing the troop build up and re-equipping them.  Which I was there for also, by the way, so kindly take your conflating, condescending ignorance and stuff it up your oubliette.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10717</link>
		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 16:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter JeffS:  

&quot;Must...think (gasp)(strain)...must use my brain.. big job, requires a lot of people, not enough troops, Rumsfeld doctrine calls for few soldiers, much equipment, (gasp)(strain), this must mean... (ugh)(hm)... oh, forget it, I&#039;ll just call Corndog a moron.  So much easier.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter JeffS:  </p>
<p>&#8220;Must&#8230;think (gasp)(strain)&#8230;must use my brain.. big job, requires a lot of people, not enough troops, Rumsfeld doctrine calls for few soldiers, much equipment, (gasp)(strain), this must mean&#8230; (ugh)(hm)&#8230; oh, forget it, I&#8217;ll just call Corndog a moron.  So much easier.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10715</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CavMedic, I saw the regular reports on the EOD efforts, both military and contractor.  It&#039;s a job that will take years to clean up.  The amount of munitions Hussein stockpiled is simply staggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CavMedic, I saw the regular reports on the EOD efforts, both military and contractor.  It&#8217;s a job that will take years to clean up.  The amount of munitions Hussein stockpiled is simply staggering.</p>
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		<title>By: CavMedic</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10712</link>
		<dc:creator>CavMedic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 15:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There were (and still are in some cases) hundreds, if not thousands of places around the country where munitions from the Iran/Iraq war are scattered around the country.  Artillery firing positions that the Iraqis apparently abandoned and never made any efforts to try and secure.  It was amazing to see what was either left unsecured or just buried, the vast majority of which could be easily converted to IEDs.  I&#039;ve seen EOD blow up well over 100 anti-aircraft shells at one time, all from one village, buried under just a few feet of dirt.

In a year my ambulance made dozens of trips out with EOD to destroy UXOs (not including dozens of others for IEDs).  The entire place is lousy with explosives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There were (and still are in some cases) hundreds, if not thousands of places around the country where munitions from the Iran/Iraq war are scattered around the country.  Artillery firing positions that the Iraqis apparently abandoned and never made any efforts to try and secure.  It was amazing to see what was either left unsecured or just buried, the vast majority of which could be easily converted to IEDs.  I&#8217;ve seen EOD blow up well over 100 anti-aircraft shells at one time, all from one village, buried under just a few feet of dirt.</p>
<p>In a year my ambulance made dozens of trips out with EOD to destroy UXOs (not including dozens of others for IEDs).  The entire place is lousy with explosives.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10711</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Are you saying that the munitions dumps could not have been secured against intruders? &lt;/i&gt;

Yes.

&lt;i&gt;Is that possible? &lt;/i&gt;

Is what possible?  Not securing miles of nearly open desert?  Or securing miles of nearly open desert?  Sounds like you need coffee.

(A gentle hint:  Fences work best with honest people.)

&lt;i&gt;If so, doesn’t it totally undercut the Rumsfeld Doctrine? &lt;/i&gt;

Not when I was in the sandbox.  Of course, it does look different from the armchair, doesn&#039;t it?

&lt;i&gt;Looks to me like it does, but then again, it’s Monday morning.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s Wednesday morning.  Have another cup of coffee, and then go out and buy a calendar.  May I suggest &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cafepress.com/buy/fisting/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.17794119/pNo_17794119/id_6432776/opt_/fpt_/c_360/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Are you saying that the munitions dumps could not have been secured against intruders? </i></p>
<p>Yes.</p>
<p><i>Is that possible? </i></p>
<p>Is what possible?  Not securing miles of nearly open desert?  Or securing miles of nearly open desert?  Sounds like you need coffee.</p>
<p>(A gentle hint:  Fences work best with honest people.)</p>
<p><i>If so, doesn’t it totally undercut the Rumsfeld Doctrine? </i></p>
<p>Not when I was in the sandbox.  Of course, it does look different from the armchair, doesn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p><i>Looks to me like it does, but then again, it’s Monday morning.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s Wednesday morning.  Have another cup of coffee, and then go out and buy a calendar.  May I suggest <a href="http://www.cafepress.com/buy/fisting/-/pv_design_prod/pg_1/p_storeid.17794119/pNo_17794119/id_6432776/opt_/fpt_/c_360/" rel="nofollow">this one?</a></p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/11/april-11-2003/comment-page-1/#comment-10709</link>
		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I missed the MOPP, MOPP segment in all the, um, excitement.

JeffS,  

Not sure the point you&#039;re making.  Are you saying that the munitions dumps could not have been secured against intruders?  Is that possible?  If so, doesn&#039;t it totally undercut the Rumsfeld Doctrine?  Looks to me like it does, but then again, it&#039;s Monday morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I missed the MOPP, MOPP segment in all the, um, excitement.</p>
<p>JeffS,  </p>
<p>Not sure the point you&#8217;re making.  Are you saying that the munitions dumps could not have been secured against intruders?  Is that possible?  If so, doesn&#8217;t it totally undercut the Rumsfeld Doctrine?  Looks to me like it does, but then again, it&#8217;s Monday morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You depleted my fonts!?! Damn your eyes!  


... what the heck is font depletion anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You depleted my fonts!?! Damn your eyes!  </p>
<p>&#8230; what the heck is font depletion anyway.</p>
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