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		<title>By: Purple Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11142</link>
		<dc:creator>Purple Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Consdiering the strategic importance of Iraq it would be insane to just leave it to chaos and death.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s where the Democrats come in.   With the Killing fields and Rwanda as warmups, they&#039;re ready to stage a show the whole world will remember for centuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Consdiering the strategic importance of Iraq it would be insane to just leave it to chaos and death.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s where the Democrats come in.   With the Killing fields and Rwanda as warmups, they&#8217;re ready to stage a show the whole world will remember for centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday he plans to continue an aggressive push for an early withdrawal from Iraq and does not particularly care that Republicans will try to paint that position as a lack of support for U.S. forces.&quot;

&quot;Why? Because “We are going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war,” the Nevada Democrat predicted at a news conference.&quot;

Democrat = Scumbag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said Thursday he plans to continue an aggressive push for an early withdrawal from Iraq and does not particularly care that Republicans will try to paint that position as a lack of support for U.S. forces.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Why? Because “We are going to pick up Senate seats as a result of this war,” the Nevada Democrat predicted at a news conference.&#8221;</p>
<p>Democrat = Scumbag.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManTyme</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11133</link>
		<dc:creator>OldManTyme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,

It turns out that alphie is not even from the US. He doesn&#039;t get much if anything about how it works here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>It turns out that alphie is not even from the US. He doesn&#8217;t get much if anything about how it works here.</p>
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		<title>By: SoldiersDad</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11131</link>
		<dc:creator>SoldiersDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The war started over 2,000 years ago...when Abraham sent his bastard son Ismael(born to a slave girl) to live among the desert people. Ever since there has beena divide among the sons of Isaac, Abrahams legitamate son, and sons of Ismael, Abrahams bastard son.

Iraq is only a battle.......

Some people believe that the only way to end the 2,000+ year old conflict is if the sons of Ismael are freed from tyranny and oppresion.

Others believe that the sons of Ismael must first  subjugate the sons of Isaac.

Folks really should read more Jihadi Tmes...AlQueada and every other whacko Muslim group blather on endlessly about how they crusaders and the jews (The sons of Isaac) subjugated them at some point in history.

If freeing the sons of ismael from the chains of oppression dooes&#039;t work...the remaining options pretty much involve a war of annihilation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The war started over 2,000 years ago&#8230;when Abraham sent his bastard son Ismael(born to a slave girl) to live among the desert people. Ever since there has beena divide among the sons of Isaac, Abrahams legitamate son, and sons of Ismael, Abrahams bastard son.</p>
<p>Iraq is only a battle&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Some people believe that the only way to end the 2,000+ year old conflict is if the sons of Ismael are freed from tyranny and oppresion.</p>
<p>Others believe that the sons of Ismael must first  subjugate the sons of Isaac.</p>
<p>Folks really should read more Jihadi Tmes&#8230;AlQueada and every other whacko Muslim group blather on endlessly about how they crusaders and the jews (The sons of Isaac) subjugated them at some point in history.</p>
<p>If freeing the sons of ismael from the chains of oppression dooes&#8217;t work&#8230;the remaining options pretty much involve a war of annihilation.</p>
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		<title>By: alphie</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11128</link>
		<dc:creator>alphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>al Sadr&#039;s people hold 30 of the 275 seats in the Potemkin Parliament we set up, Terrye.

We don&#039;t like &#039;em, let&#039;s kill &#039;em?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>al Sadr&#8217;s people hold 30 of the 275 seats in the Potemkin Parliament we set up, Terrye.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t like &#8216;em, let&#8217;s kill &#8216;em?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11127</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alphie:

I am not a racist. I don&#039;t think that all Iraqis are like Sadr or AlQaida. I think many of them are decent people who deserve a chance at a decent life. No, I leave that whole &quot;sucking up to the barbarians&quot; schtick to the progressives.

I am saying that if the United States just runs out on our commitments then the entire region could be drawn into a larger war. The Turks have threatened for years that they will not tolerate an independent Kurdish state in the north. That is only one of the possibilities. But we do know that if we run, we leave AlQaida there to kill people. That is for sure. How long then before we run from Afghanistan? After all we have been there even longer, shouldn&#039;t we surrender to the Taliban and make it official?

I realize that you could care less if the Iraqi people are trying to create a representative government after decades of suffering under a brutal dictatorship. The circular logic of the left usually goes something like this: That Saddam was bad, but taking him out was worse. Better to leave so we can bitch about him but never do anything about him. The thing to do was to allow him to kill and maim who ever he wanted and then let Eason Jordan lie about it all so that we woud feel better. Kind of like Duranty lying about that whole silly Ukrainian famine thing back when the left&#039;s hero was Joe Stalin. Duranty got a Pulitzer, Stalin got a pass and the Ukrainians got dead.

No, I am saying the U. S. needs to stay there to keep our word and do the right thing. 

Now Mike is right, I have fed you enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alphie:</p>
<p>I am not a racist. I don&#8217;t think that all Iraqis are like Sadr or AlQaida. I think many of them are decent people who deserve a chance at a decent life. No, I leave that whole &#8220;sucking up to the barbarians&#8221; schtick to the progressives.</p>
<p>I am saying that if the United States just runs out on our commitments then the entire region could be drawn into a larger war. The Turks have threatened for years that they will not tolerate an independent Kurdish state in the north. That is only one of the possibilities. But we do know that if we run, we leave AlQaida there to kill people. That is for sure. How long then before we run from Afghanistan? After all we have been there even longer, shouldn&#8217;t we surrender to the Taliban and make it official?</p>
<p>I realize that you could care less if the Iraqi people are trying to create a representative government after decades of suffering under a brutal dictatorship. The circular logic of the left usually goes something like this: That Saddam was bad, but taking him out was worse. Better to leave so we can bitch about him but never do anything about him. The thing to do was to allow him to kill and maim who ever he wanted and then let Eason Jordan lie about it all so that we woud feel better. Kind of like Duranty lying about that whole silly Ukrainian famine thing back when the left&#8217;s hero was Joe Stalin. Duranty got a Pulitzer, Stalin got a pass and the Ukrainians got dead.</p>
<p>No, I am saying the U. S. needs to stay there to keep our word and do the right thing. </p>
<p>Now Mike is right, I have fed you enough.</p>
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		<title>By: alphie</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11126</link>
		<dc:creator>alphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,

Leaving aside your casual racism, are you honestly saying U.S. troops are in Iraq to defend it against another NATO country (Turkey)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>Leaving aside your casual racism, are you honestly saying U.S. troops are in Iraq to defend it against another NATO country (Turkey)?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alphie:

As usual you don&#039;t know what you are talking about. The {gasp!} neocons feel that Anbar province might very well fall to AlQaida, while Turkey goes into the North and your friends the mullahs take a break from beheading unwed mothers and kidnapping Brits to go inot the south.

The truth is if the neocons or anyone else really believed that they could signal withdrawal from Iraq and the place would stabilize there is no way they would opt to stay. 

As far as the Shia are concerned, I know that you think seen one strangle little brown Muslim seen them all, but less than half the Shia feel inclined toward Iran. There are actually Shia in Iraq who are not Iran puppets like Sadr, who btw controlled about 25 seats out of 278. 

For years I listened to the left left bitch about Saddam and then they bitched about the sanctions and then they bitched about removing Saddam and now they suck up to any fascist out there who is willing to light a match to an American flag.

Consdiering the strategic importance of Iraq it would be insane to just leave it to chaos and death. There is no way a country with those kinds of oil reserves will allowed to just sort of find its way if America runs off. Not to mention the fact that no one on the left even seems to give a passing thought to what kind of rear gaurd action those troops will be fighting once the retreat begins.

AlQaida is killing people in Iraq. When Zarqawi went to Iraq after the Taliban fell in Afghanistan Saddam allowed him to set up shop there knowing full well that the Americans would want him. Saddam did not stop him from coming in or hold him once he got there. Obviously AlQaida will use the Iraqi people not only as cannon fodder but as a hostage population. Now you can blow that off all you want, but right now most of the deaths in Iraq  are not coming from the US military or even the militia, they are coming from AlQaida and if the Iraqis can not run them off now, what chance will they have once we run away and leave them to die?

From the Best of The Web:

Latter-Day Copperhead

    * &quot;I believe . . . that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week.&quot;--Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, April 19, 2007

    * &quot;Resolved, that this convention does explicitly declare, as the sense of the American people, that after four years of failure to restore the Union by the experiment of war, during which, under the pretence of military necessity, or war power higher than the Constitution, the Constitution itself has been disregarded in every part, and public liberty and private right alike trodden down, and the material prosperity of the country essentially impaired, justice, humanity, liberty, and the public welfare demand that immediate efforts be made for a cessation of hostilities, with a view to an ultimate convention of the States or other peaceable means, to the end that at the earliest practicable moment peace may be restored on the basis of the federal Union of the States.&quot;--1864 Democratic platform</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alphie:</p>
<p>As usual you don&#8217;t know what you are talking about. The {gasp!} neocons feel that Anbar province might very well fall to AlQaida, while Turkey goes into the North and your friends the mullahs take a break from beheading unwed mothers and kidnapping Brits to go inot the south.</p>
<p>The truth is if the neocons or anyone else really believed that they could signal withdrawal from Iraq and the place would stabilize there is no way they would opt to stay. </p>
<p>As far as the Shia are concerned, I know that you think seen one strangle little brown Muslim seen them all, but less than half the Shia feel inclined toward Iran. There are actually Shia in Iraq who are not Iran puppets like Sadr, who btw controlled about 25 seats out of 278. </p>
<p>For years I listened to the left left bitch about Saddam and then they bitched about the sanctions and then they bitched about removing Saddam and now they suck up to any fascist out there who is willing to light a match to an American flag.</p>
<p>Consdiering the strategic importance of Iraq it would be insane to just leave it to chaos and death. There is no way a country with those kinds of oil reserves will allowed to just sort of find its way if America runs off. Not to mention the fact that no one on the left even seems to give a passing thought to what kind of rear gaurd action those troops will be fighting once the retreat begins.</p>
<p>AlQaida is killing people in Iraq. When Zarqawi went to Iraq after the Taliban fell in Afghanistan Saddam allowed him to set up shop there knowing full well that the Americans would want him. Saddam did not stop him from coming in or hold him once he got there. Obviously AlQaida will use the Iraqi people not only as cannon fodder but as a hostage population. Now you can blow that off all you want, but right now most of the deaths in Iraq  are not coming from the US military or even the militia, they are coming from AlQaida and if the Iraqis can not run them off now, what chance will they have once we run away and leave them to die?</p>
<p>From the Best of The Web:</p>
<p>Latter-Day Copperhead</p>
<p>    * &#8220;I believe . . . that this war is lost, and this surge is not accomplishing anything, as is shown by the extreme violence in Iraq this week.&#8221;&#8211;Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, April 19, 2007</p>
<p>    * &#8220;Resolved, that this convention does explicitly declare, as the sense of the American people, that after four years of failure to restore the Union by the experiment of war, during which, under the pretence of military necessity, or war power higher than the Constitution, the Constitution itself has been disregarded in every part, and public liberty and private right alike trodden down, and the material prosperity of the country essentially impaired, justice, humanity, liberty, and the public welfare demand that immediate efforts be made for a cessation of hostilities, with a view to an ultimate convention of the States or other peaceable means, to the end that at the earliest practicable moment peace may be restored on the basis of the federal Union of the States.&#8221;&#8211;1864 Democratic platform</p>
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		<title>By: alphie</title>
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		<dc:creator>alphie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrye,

Not even the neocons believe al Qeada will take over Iraq when we pull out.

The neocons fear that Shiites friendly to Iran wil take over when we leave.

Considering the Shiites are 60% of Iraq&#039;s population, there is nothing we can do to stop that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrye,</p>
<p>Not even the neocons believe al Qeada will take over Iraq when we pull out.</p>
<p>The neocons fear that Shiites friendly to Iran wil take over when we leave.</p>
<p>Considering the Shiites are 60% of Iraq&#8217;s population, there is nothing we can do to stop that.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/04/20/not-clear-on-the-lost-concept/comment-page-1/#comment-11122</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 21:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and blaming the military is not useful either alphie, let to people like you those Iraqis could die in the millions at the hands of the terrorists or the Baathists and you would not left a finger to help them. The American military is the only thing standing between them and chaos and here you are cheering for chaos. Disgraceful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and blaming the military is not useful either alphie, let to people like you those Iraqis could die in the millions at the hands of the terrorists or the Baathists and you would not left a finger to help them. The American military is the only thing standing between them and chaos and here you are cheering for chaos. Disgraceful.</p>
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