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GIs IDs

The ID cards of Spc. Alex Jimenez and Pvt. Byron Fouty are shown on an al-Qaeda video.  The soldiers themselves are significantly absent though they are claimed to have been killed.  It was considered before that the failure to produce video suggested extreme pressure on the abductors by the 6,000 U.S. and Iraq troops engaged in the search for the missing men. 

Questions about their status remain, including whether they are actually dead, when and how killed, whether the people who possess the IDs at any time actually had the men, and what the purpose of this release is.  Maybe to take the heat off so these guys can move, with their hostages.

UPDATE: The military says search will continue.

Topics: Iraq, military

  Posted by Jules Crittenden at 10:55 am on Monday, June 4, 2007

10 Responses to “GIs IDs”

1. RebeccaH Says:
   June 4th, 2007 at 12:21 pm

   I believe that if our soldiers are not returned alive, then we should take their captors, dead.

2. saltydog Says:
   June 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pm

   The bastards ought to be dead one way or the other.

3. The_Real_JeffS Says:
   June 4th, 2007 at 5:39 pm

   As another person commented on another blog, we can’t kill enough of these animals.

4. davidp Says:
   June 4th, 2007 at 8:11 pm

   The chances of ever getting the abducted soldiers back alive always seemed low, with the terrorists quite likely to murder them on detection by US troops, and bound to murder them after abuse/torture if not detected. The search will have reduced the amount of abuse and torture inflicted on them, possibly preventing most of it.

   As a foreign non-soldier, I don’t understand the obsessive effort to get dead bodies back embedded in ‘the soldiers code’ refered to in the raw story article. Aren’t the lives of the living more valuable than the corpses of the dead ? Do US troops burden themselves with friends corpses at risk of their own livesand cobat effectiveness ?

   [Perhaps I've read too much World War I literature with most bodies non-recoverable, and body recovery excluded from the text, but the anglo-australian tradition is to bury soldiers near where they died, in 'some foreign field that is forever England"]

5. El Cid Says:
   June 4th, 2007 at 9:07 pm

   The_Real_JeffS

   As another person commented on another blog, we can’t kill enough of these animals.

   We can, but we chose not to. And for the life of me, I can’t understand, why. We choose to be civil to the UNcivil. Things will not change, until we stoop to their level and eliminate as many as possible. Kill them all as far as I’m concerned and let God sort it out. To hell with civilities.

6. The_Real_JeffS Says:
   June 5th, 2007 at 12:27 am

   Do US troops burden themselves with friends corpses at risk of their own livesand cobat effectiveness ?

   The code says “Leave no man behind”. It’s not a formal code, but it is an honorable one. They are your buddies. You placed your lives in their hands…..and they trusted you as much with their lives.

   If if comes apart — as has happened before and will happen again — the final act of honor is to make sure they go home to rest in peace. This is the least that we can do for brave soldiers.

   As an example, General Puller, during the retreat from Chosin Reservoir in the Korean War, brought out his dead. SSG Matt Maupin remains MIA in Iraq 4 years after being captured by terrorists. We are still looking for him.

   And it’s not just a tradition. There’s an entire organization dedicated to this, the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command. They identify the remains of fallen comrades from WWI and after. There are still 8000 missing in Korea, far more from WWII.

   Finally, it’s not a “burden”. It’s a duty.

7. davidp Says:
   June 5th, 2007 at 1:27 am

   Thanks for the response JeffS. It’s a very different way of thinking from mine.

8. Dave Surls Says:
   June 5th, 2007 at 1:36 am

   One addition to Jeff’s excellent response.

   Only the losers have to leave their wounded and dead behind on the battlefield…and REAL Americans don’t like to lose. Democrats and leftoid traitors might, real Americans, no way.

9. KAD Says:
   June 5th, 2007 at 4:28 am

   This story makes no sense; why dump the body of one soldier and then kill and “bury” the others.

   I wondering if the soldiers tried to escape and were killed or refused to cooperate in propaganda films thus were no value to the thugs.

   I can wonder and I can regret we”ll never know. I can also understand why a barbaric, brutal enemy will try to hide stories of heroism by American soldiers.

   What I don’t understand is why our media does the same with well documente stories of other American heroes.

   Seems more and more the objectives and templates of the international left media and our enemy are converging.

10. saltydog Says:
    June 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pm

    KAD: Seems more and more the objectives and templates of the international left media and our enemy are converging.

    Your tense is wrong. The objectives and templates of the international left media and our enemy converged some time ago.

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