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		<title>By: saltydog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25396</link>
		<dc:creator>saltydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cid, 

Since the script is same for this bunch, it&#039;s hard to tell if it&#039;s a new name or a new writer.</description>
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<p>Since the script is same for this bunch, it&#8217;s hard to tell if it&#8217;s a new name or a new writer.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25230</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alphie, has a new nickname, I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alphie, has a new nickname, I see.</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25225</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tik:

That was strange. I used to be a Democrat and believe it or not I supported the war because I thought Saddam Hussein was an evil mass murdering dictator. It was the Democrats who decided that when you have a Republican president on one side and the Butcher of Baghdad on the other, you back the Butcher. Their decision, don&#039;t blame anyone else. If the Democrats wanted to turn Saddam loose they had 8 years to do it. The truth is they did whatever was politically useful at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tik:</p>
<p>That was strange. I used to be a Democrat and believe it or not I supported the war because I thought Saddam Hussein was an evil mass murdering dictator. It was the Democrats who decided that when you have a Republican president on one side and the Butcher of Baghdad on the other, you back the Butcher. Their decision, don&#8217;t blame anyone else. If the Democrats wanted to turn Saddam loose they had 8 years to do it. The truth is they did whatever was politically useful at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25224</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 21:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt; Bush would rather see America defeated — since the only real “defeat” is remaining in Iraq — than admit he was wrong; I understand that.&lt;/i&gt;

Folks, I think that we are looking at the first reaction from the Nutroots on the Democratic spin machine pointing away from unconditional surrender to the terrorists.  A fine example of assertions, goal post moving, and BDS.

Oddly enough, it&#039;s an attempt to blame everything on Bush, and nothing on the Dhimmicrats who are frantically trying to cover their a$$ses, and failing to suck up to the Surrenderistas instead.  Maybe the Nutroots are trying to stay tight with Pelosi and Reid by throwing them a very tiny life preserver?  God knows there&#039;s no way Kos will get elected into Congress for a fair number of years.

No matter....tinknorati is a fine example of an imploding head.  Enjoy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i> Bush would rather see America defeated — since the only real “defeat” is remaining in Iraq — than admit he was wrong; I understand that.</i></p>
<p>Folks, I think that we are looking at the first reaction from the Nutroots on the Democratic spin machine pointing away from unconditional surrender to the terrorists.  A fine example of assertions, goal post moving, and BDS.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, it&#8217;s an attempt to blame everything on Bush, and nothing on the Dhimmicrats who are frantically trying to cover their a$$ses, and failing to suck up to the Surrenderistas instead.  Maybe the Nutroots are trying to stay tight with Pelosi and Reid by throwing them a very tiny life preserver?  God knows there&#8217;s no way Kos will get elected into Congress for a fair number of years.</p>
<p>No matter&#8230;.tinknorati is a fine example of an imploding head.  Enjoy!</p>
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		<title>By: DrApplebreath</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25219</link>
		<dc:creator>DrApplebreath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Chuck Hagel is on the Irony Narrative too! He&#039;s gonna demand the White House and the Pentagon do what they have announced they&#039;re gonna do!

&quot;“We’re going to demand we get whatever information we require,” the Republican senator said during a Lincoln interview.
“We fully expect the leaders of our government will comply with their responsibility.  We must have all the facts and details required to make intelligent decisions.&quot;

Ha! I get it.

But Irony is best in small doses, after that it becomes parody, then religion, then political fanaticism - where it is Truth, of course.

It appears that the episodes are all written for this season, so now is not the time to start believing your lying eyes. The poor NYT must be longing for the happy days when they ran Abu Ghraib on the front page every day for over five weeks. Ahhh, sweet memories of America&#039;s shame, and now the poor things must occasionally mention some small successes in the news. How mortifying.

Something that is not Ironic but is thankfully True is that beer can be in many, many places at once.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Chuck Hagel is on the Irony Narrative too! He&#8217;s gonna demand the White House and the Pentagon do what they have announced they&#8217;re gonna do!</p>
<p>&#8220;“We’re going to demand we get whatever information we require,” the Republican senator said during a Lincoln interview.<br />
“We fully expect the leaders of our government will comply with their responsibility.  We must have all the facts and details required to make intelligent decisions.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ha! I get it.</p>
<p>But Irony is best in small doses, after that it becomes parody, then religion, then political fanaticism &#8211; where it is Truth, of course.</p>
<p>It appears that the episodes are all written for this season, so now is not the time to start believing your lying eyes. The poor NYT must be longing for the happy days when they ran Abu Ghraib on the front page every day for over five weeks. Ahhh, sweet memories of America&#8217;s shame, and now the poor things must occasionally mention some small successes in the news. How mortifying.</p>
<p>Something that is not Ironic but is thankfully True is that beer can be in many, many places at once.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack is Back</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack is Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In 6 Months the NYTs may not even exist.  Have you checked out their financials lately.  Layoffs are coming and where would you start.  Hard news?  Nope.  Sports? Hardly.  Arts and Enterainment? Its all revenue ads from Broadway.  You&#039;d start with Gail Collins and her half-witted eastern establishment elitists who can&#039;t figure out where Mesopatamia is in regard to terror.  They have no military training and let it show everyday.  The only good thing going for the NYTs is the Sunday Crossword puzzle, the bi-monthly acrostic and Will Shortz&#039; editing.  So far, the puzzle has been the least politicalized part of the paper.  Even the sports guys have made comments about Bush, Cheney and the war in making analogies to baseball, boxing and basketball.  You&#039;d think a paper of record would have made analogies of Cheney at least in the outdoor column.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 6 Months the NYTs may not even exist.  Have you checked out their financials lately.  Layoffs are coming and where would you start.  Hard news?  Nope.  Sports? Hardly.  Arts and Enterainment? Its all revenue ads from Broadway.  You&#8217;d start with Gail Collins and her half-witted eastern establishment elitists who can&#8217;t figure out where Mesopatamia is in regard to terror.  They have no military training and let it show everyday.  The only good thing going for the NYTs is the Sunday Crossword puzzle, the bi-monthly acrostic and Will Shortz&#8217; editing.  So far, the puzzle has been the least politicalized part of the paper.  Even the sports guys have made comments about Bush, Cheney and the war in making analogies to baseball, boxing and basketball.  You&#8217;d think a paper of record would have made analogies of Cheney at least in the outdoor column.</p>
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		<title>By: Purple Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25214</link>
		<dc:creator>Purple Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In another 6 months the NYT will be saying they always thought the surge was a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In another 6 months the NYT will be saying they always thought the surge was a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: tinknorati</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25209</link>
		<dc:creator>tinknorati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this new meme -- &quot;Democrats are trying to find a way to get in on the smashing success of the war in Iraq&quot; -- may be my favorite crazy Bush-cultist meme ever. To believe this, you have to forget that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/07/19/petraeus/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;we&#039;ve been hearing these same claims of &quot;progress&quot; for years&lt;/a&gt;, and the people who claim that there is no such thing as &quot;progress&quot; in Iraq are always right. (Yes, I&#039;m linking to The Evil Sock Puppet. Therefore all the direct quotes in that article are like totally inaccurate.)

I know why the Bush administration goes for this stuff; if Bush admitted that Al-Qaeda is a minor factor in Iraq, that &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2007/08/17/news/politics/doc46c6304f07b33356678323.txt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conditions on the ground are no better than they&#039;ve ever been&lt;/a&gt;, and that the only way for Iraq to get better is if we leave (and that the longer we wait to leave, the worse the bloodbath will be when we do leave), he&#039;d have to admit that he failed. Bush would rather see America defeated -- since the only real &quot;defeat&quot; is remaining in Iraq -- than admit he was wrong; I understand that.

And I understand Crittenden&#039;s enthusiasm for American defeat and American death; if we leave Iraq, we&#039;ll be safer and more secure, but fewer Muslims will be shot on a daily basis, and anyone who&#039;s read Jules on a regular basis knows that he would rather see America defeated than see one more Muslim survive than necessary. 

But most importantly, the right has always been at war with liberals and Democrats. So the idea of keeping troops in Iraq, forcing Democrats to spend most of their time trying to find a way to stop the war (since this is in America&#039;s national security interest, and the Democrats are the national security party) is OK with them; it&#039;s a defeat for America to keep all these troops in Iraq, but that&#039;s the point: defeating America -- or the half of America that doesn&#039;t agree with Bush -- is the goal of the right. So while Crittenden and Bush know we can&#039;t &quot;win&quot; in Iraq, staying in Iraq is a way to &quot;win&quot; against the evil Dhimmicrats. The fact that it&#039;s in America&#039;s national security interest to leave is irrelevant when you have declared war on America, which is what Bush and his cultists have done.

Remember, more dead Americans are totally worth it if it bums out Democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this new meme &#8212; &#8220;Democrats are trying to find a way to get in on the smashing success of the war in Iraq&#8221; &#8212; may be my favorite crazy Bush-cultist meme ever. To believe this, you have to forget that <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/07/19/petraeus/index.html" rel="nofollow">we&#8217;ve been hearing these same claims of &#8220;progress&#8221; for years</a>, and the people who claim that there is no such thing as &#8220;progress&#8221; in Iraq are always right. (Yes, I&#8217;m linking to The Evil Sock Puppet. Therefore all the direct quotes in that article are like totally inaccurate.)</p>
<p>I know why the Bush administration goes for this stuff; if Bush admitted that Al-Qaeda is a minor factor in Iraq, that <a href="http://www.journalstar.com/articles/2007/08/17/news/politics/doc46c6304f07b33356678323.txt" rel="nofollow">conditions on the ground are no better than they&#8217;ve ever been</a>, and that the only way for Iraq to get better is if we leave (and that the longer we wait to leave, the worse the bloodbath will be when we do leave), he&#8217;d have to admit that he failed. Bush would rather see America defeated &#8212; since the only real &#8220;defeat&#8221; is remaining in Iraq &#8212; than admit he was wrong; I understand that.</p>
<p>And I understand Crittenden&#8217;s enthusiasm for American defeat and American death; if we leave Iraq, we&#8217;ll be safer and more secure, but fewer Muslims will be shot on a daily basis, and anyone who&#8217;s read Jules on a regular basis knows that he would rather see America defeated than see one more Muslim survive than necessary. </p>
<p>But most importantly, the right has always been at war with liberals and Democrats. So the idea of keeping troops in Iraq, forcing Democrats to spend most of their time trying to find a way to stop the war (since this is in America&#8217;s national security interest, and the Democrats are the national security party) is OK with them; it&#8217;s a defeat for America to keep all these troops in Iraq, but that&#8217;s the point: defeating America &#8212; or the half of America that doesn&#8217;t agree with Bush &#8212; is the goal of the right. So while Crittenden and Bush know we can&#8217;t &#8220;win&#8221; in Iraq, staying in Iraq is a way to &#8220;win&#8221; against the evil Dhimmicrats. The fact that it&#8217;s in America&#8217;s national security interest to leave is irrelevant when you have declared war on America, which is what Bush and his cultists have done.</p>
<p>Remember, more dead Americans are totally worth it if it bums out Democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Wake up America</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/08/18/operation-fig-leaf/comment-page-1/#comment-25205</link>
		<dc:creator>Wake up America</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 16:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iraqi&#039;s Step Up, We Step Down Part #2&lt;/strong&gt;

TODAYS NYT article tries to spin it by implying that the troop reductions will be a reversal on Bush&#039;s part instead of a natural reduction in the surge which was said at the time it was announced, it was temporary, to have the manpower to secure then...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iraqi&#8217;s Step Up, We Step Down Part #2</strong></p>
<p>TODAYS NYT article tries to spin it by implying that the troop reductions will be a reversal on Bush&#8217;s part instead of a natural reduction in the surge which was said at the time it was announced, it was temporary, to have the manpower to secure then&#8230;</p>
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