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	<description>Forward Movement</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28576</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 19:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;can you imagine if Bush had even done half the things FDR did, let alone Lincoln?&quot;

Sure.  The lefty pundits would be screaming their bloody heads off about what a tyrant Bush is, and telling us how Roosevelt was the greatest president of all time, justy like they always do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;can you imagine if Bush had even done half the things FDR did, let alone Lincoln?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure.  The lefty pundits would be screaming their bloody heads off about what a tyrant Bush is, and telling us how Roosevelt was the greatest president of all time, justy like they always do.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28455</link>
		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and Surley?  We can take this discussion up over at your second-favorite site, http://www.everypoet.com/pffa.htm, where we can discuss the difference between metaphor and fact.*


* Conservative humorlessness alert:  This is a joke.  I&#039;m not really going to go over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and Surley?  We can take this discussion up over at your second-favorite site, <a href="http://www.everypoet.com/pffa.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.everypoet.com/pffa.htm</a>, where we can discuss the difference between metaphor and fact.*</p>
<p>* Conservative humorlessness alert:  This is a joke.  I&#8217;m not really going to go over there.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28454</link>
		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeffy, I&#039;ll be very disappointed if you didn&#039;t pick up on the jokes imbedded in my last post.  Did you google?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeffy, I&#8217;ll be very disappointed if you didn&#8217;t pick up on the jokes imbedded in my last post.  Did you google?</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28425</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although, now that I think upon the matter, I suppose gunpowder would appear magical to people who insist on redefining things to what they want it to mean, and not what the original intention was.  

A point that Jeff Goldstein at PW talks about constantly.  I do believe that we&#039;ve seen a real-time example of that here.  

Stand in awe, people.  &lt;i&gt;Stand in awe.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although, now that I think upon the matter, I suppose gunpowder would appear magical to people who insist on redefining things to what they want it to mean, and not what the original intention was.  </p>
<p>A point that Jeff Goldstein at PW talks about constantly.  I do believe that we&#8217;ve seen a real-time example of that here.  </p>
<p>Stand in awe, people.  <i>Stand in awe.</i></p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28424</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He’s talking about the invention of gunpowder&lt;/i&gt;

Like I said, Dave -- the poem is a history lesson.  Kipling was a pragmatic fellow, and didn&#039;t worry much about politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He’s talking about the invention of gunpowder</i></p>
<p>Like I said, Dave &#8212; the poem is a history lesson.  Kipling was a pragmatic fellow, and didn&#8217;t worry much about politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanguard of the Commentariat</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28422</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanguard of the Commentariat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;dog, t&#039;was not a complaint, it was a comment.   I know the caring and sharing crowd has trouble with that distinction.  


&quot;Nothing’s changed…except we don’t have an Abe Lincoln in power to shut down traitor newspapers or throw Democrat turncoats in prison, where they belong.&quot;

Oh goodness.  With all the lib caturwaulling that has gone on in the last 6 years about what has been literally no curtailment of rights or freedoms, can you imagine if Bush had even done half the things FDR did, let alone Lincoln?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;dog, t&#8217;was not a complaint, it was a comment.   I know the caring and sharing crowd has trouble with that distinction.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Nothing’s changed…except we don’t have an Abe Lincoln in power to shut down traitor newspapers or throw Democrat turncoats in prison, where they belong.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh goodness.  With all the lib caturwaulling that has gone on in the last 6 years about what has been literally no curtailment of rights or freedoms, can you imagine if Bush had even done half the things FDR did, let alone Lincoln?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28418</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wouldn’t you know it. Times gave a break to MoveOn.org to gratuitously and falsely insult Petraeus.&quot;

Big shock.  The NYT is a mouthpiece for the Dems, and the Dems are a party of Traitors.  Always have been.

What the heck do you think our Civil War was all about?

Nothing&#039;s changed...except we don&#039;t have an Abe Lincoln in power to shut down traitor newspapers or throw Democrat turncoats in prison, where they belong.

Well, not yet anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wouldn’t you know it. Times gave a break to MoveOn.org to gratuitously and falsely insult Petraeus.&#8221;</p>
<p>Big shock.  The NYT is a mouthpiece for the Dems, and the Dems are a party of Traitors.  Always have been.</p>
<p>What the heck do you think our Civil War was all about?</p>
<p>Nothing&#8217;s changed&#8230;except we don&#8217;t have an Abe Lincoln in power to shut down traitor newspapers or throw Democrat turncoats in prison, where they belong.</p>
<p>Well, not yet anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28416</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Then Kipling imagines a magic powder that would turn politics on its head:&quot;

LOL.  He&#039;s talking about the invention of gunpowder (and how it cancelled out the advantage that &quot;the rich&quot;/noble knights had enjoyed on the battlefield), simple simon.  Since you obviously don&#039;t understand the poem, why don&#039;t you just shut your yap and avoid looking like a fool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then Kipling imagines a magic powder that would turn politics on its head:&#8221;</p>
<p>LOL.  He&#8217;s talking about the invention of gunpowder (and how it cancelled out the advantage that &#8220;the rich&#8221;/noble knights had enjoyed on the battlefield), simple simon.  Since you obviously don&#8217;t understand the poem, why don&#8217;t you just shut your yap and avoid looking like a fool.</p>
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		<title>By: corndog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28409</link>
		<dc:creator>corndog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is light past seven when the door bell rings.
    In no time ago we went
        plucking cherries under the stacking planes

while the colander parties jammed and pruned
    blocking the ring-road and corso.
        And into the shadows you went to gather</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is light past seven when the door bell rings.<br />
    In no time ago we went<br />
        plucking cherries under the stacking planes</p>
<p>while the colander parties jammed and pruned<br />
    blocking the ring-road and corso.<br />
        And into the shadows you went to gather</p>
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		<title>By: The_Real_JeffS</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/09/13/nyt-lies-people-will-die/comment-page-1/#comment-28407</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Real_JeffS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defining poetry from another era is often a matter of context based on personal experience, corndog.  I won&#039;t say that your interpretation is wrong, I will merely point out that it may be incomplete or narrowly focused (i.e., &quot;politics&quot;.....and that mine offers a much wider vision (i.e., &quot;history&quot;).  

I will also note that if you don&#039;t want lit crit at Jules Crit, try not to dowdify poetry to meet your (un)exacting standards.  If nothing else, you will avoid the perception that you are cherry picking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defining poetry from another era is often a matter of context based on personal experience, corndog.  I won&#8217;t say that your interpretation is wrong, I will merely point out that it may be incomplete or narrowly focused (i.e., &#8220;politics&#8221;&#8230;..and that mine offers a much wider vision (i.e., &#8220;history&#8221;).  </p>
<p>I will also note that if you don&#8217;t want lit crit at Jules Crit, try not to dowdify poetry to meet your (un)exacting standards.  If nothing else, you will avoid the perception that you are cherry picking.</p>
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