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		<title>By: MentalFloss</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 05:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ch&#039;l&#039;sh kRt&#039;ndn, Waht about Gaza...?

Gaza, or in Hebrew, Azza, is a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel). 

In Biblical times, G-d gave this Holy Land as a gift, as an eternal covenant that can never, ever be broken, to the Children of Israel. This is clearly documented in the Deed of Trust to the land, which is the Bible. 

Marking the southern border of ancient, Biblical Canaan, its original inhabitants were a group of people known as the Avvites. This distinct group of people is now extinct. 

It was captured and conquered by the men of the tribe of Judah (Judges 1:18) and was included in the allotment given to that tribe (Josh. 15:47). It remained in the possession of the Canaanites until the beginning of the 12th century BCE, when it became occupied by the Philistines. It was part of the Philistine Pentapolis, the southern-most city in that league of five cities (Josh. 13:3 1 Sam. 6:17; Jer. 25.20). As part of the Philistine Pentapolis, Gaza played an important role in the story of Samson (Judges 13-16). 

Just to set the factual and historical record straight, the Philistines were a Mediterranean seafaring nation that is completely extinct today. They are not one and the same people as the Arab nation and people calling themselves “Palestinians” today. These Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. The name “Palestine” and “Palestinians” evolved from the name Philistia, which was given to the area by the Roman conquerors as an insult to the Jewish people. The name has been hijacked by the Arabs to lay a false claim to a land that does not belong to them Biblically, historically, legally, morally or rightfully. 

The Philistines, a distinct people, are also now extinct. 

It was the only city in its area to oppose Alexander the Great during 332 BCE. Later on, it was an outpost of the Ptolemies, who were the ruling power in Egypt during the Hellenistic period, until its capture in 98 BCE by Assyria’s Antiochus III, the Seuclid king in control of an empire.

The city was subsequently attacked and reconquered by Jonathan the Hasmonean during 145 BCE (1 Macc. 11:61-62). 

Pompey restored the city and Galbinus, also a Roman official, rebuilt the city (circa 57 BCE).
King Herod the Great held the city for a short time, but after his death, it came under the authority of the Roman proconsul of Syria. It flourished as a Roman city and remained a center for the Jewish community and the emerging Christian community throughout the Roman era (963 BCE through 324 CE), and continued into the Byzantine period, 324 CE through 1453 CE.
Gaza remained a centre of pilgrimages in Eretz Yisrael during the Byzantine period.

In a great battle fought near Gaza in 635 CE, the Arabs vanquished the Byzantines; the city itself fell soon afterward. It remained the seat of the governor of the Negev, as is known from the Nessana Papyri. 

Then, again, there were a succession of attackers, conquerors and occupiers of Jewish Gaza.
Despite the fact that there have been many foreign occupations of Gaza, the territory belongs to the Jewish people. 

There can be no honest dispute who this land belongs to Biblically, historically, legally, morally, and rightfully - the Children of Israel.

King Baldwin I of Jerusalem occupied the city, which was known in Crusader occupation times as Gadres. From the time of Baldwin III (1152 CE), it was a Templar stronghold. In 1170, it fell to Saladin. Under Mamluk occupation and rule, Gaza was capital of a district.
After the destruction of Gaza by the Crusaders, the Jewish community ceased to exist.
Nothing more was heard about Gaza until the 14th century. Meshullam of Volterra found 60 Jewish householders there during 1481 CE. All the wine of Gaza was produced by the Jews.

Gaza flourished under Ottoman rule. The Jewish community was once again flourishing and prosperous during the 16th and 17th centuries. 

The Karaite Samuel ben David found a Rabbanite synagogue there in 1641 (vis Ginzei Yisrael be-St. Petersburg, ed. by J. Gurland, 1865). In the 16th century, there was a bet din and a yeshiva in Gaza. 

In 1665, on the occasion of Shabbtai Zevi’s visit to Gaza, the city became a center of the messianic movement. One of his principle disciples was Nathan of Gaza.
The city of Gaza was briefly militarily occupied once again, this time by Napoleon in 1799.
In the 19th century, the city of Gaza declined. The Jews that were concentrated there were mostly barley merchants. They bartered with the Bedouins for barley, which they exported to the beer breweries of Europe. 

Gaza was a Turkish stronghold during World War I. Two British attacks made on Gaza during 1916-17 failed and it was finally taken during a flanking movement by Allenby. Under British Mandatory occupation and rule, Gaza developed slowly. The last Jews living in Gaza left the town as result of the Arab anti-Jewish disturbances and massacres that took place during 1929.
In 1946, Gaza’s population was estimated at 19,500, all Muslim except for 720 Christians.

During Israel’s defensive War of Independence, when five Arab armies invaded the reestablished Jewish homeland with the intent of its annihilation, the invading Egyptian army attacked, conquered and occupied Gaza. Israel defeated its attackers and reconquered its rightful land. 

The town, together with the newly created Gaza Strip, was put under Egyptian administration by the armistice agreement of 1949. The influx of Arab refugees, who were told by the Arab aggressors that they could soon return after the Jews “were driven into the sea,” later swelled the city’s population at least fourfold. Bear in mind that most of the Arabs living in Eretz Yisrael at the time only came in the middle to late 1920s to escape economic hardship and political persecution by their own people. 

The 1967 census showed that 87,793 Arab inhabitants and settlers lived in Gaza City proper, while only 30,479 lived in the refugee camp created by the Arabs’ call for the annihilation of the Jewish nation-state. The latter lived within the municipal boundaries of Gaza. Of this number, 1,649 were Christians and the rest were Muslims. 

Now, we can compare this with the number of Egypt’s Jews who were forcibly expelled in the “Forgotten Exodus”, whose properties were confiscated, who were brutally beaten, robbed, tortured and sometimes murdered.

More ancient evidence to consider.

In 1965, a mosaic pavement was discovered by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities. This mosaic, dated 508/9, was uncovered on the seashore of Gaza’s harbor. Its figures include one of King David as Orpheus, dressed in Byzantine royal garments and playing the harp. The name “David” in Hebrew letters appears above it. A Greek inscription at the center of the floor, which mentions the names of two donors (Menahem and Jesse) of the mosaic to the “holy place” and the name David, testifies that a synagogue stood there.

In 1967, A. Ovadiah excavated the area and discovered a synagogue from the sixth century CE.

Archaeological evidence supports the Biblical premise of a continuous Jewish presence in Gaza, from the late Bronze Period until the Byzantine Period (circa 1500 BCE through 632 CE).

Evidence of a considerable Jewish presence in Gaza during the Talmudic period is provided also by a relief of a menorah, a shofar, a lulav and an etrog, which appears on a pillar of the Great Mosque of Gaza, along with various Hebrew and Greek inscriptions.

Oh, I should probably add that most of the above is derived from books (y’all remember books, right?) —but I can provide internet sources as well.

Critical analysis (hell, just reading it) will indicate the deponent (myself) is far from impartial.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ch&#8217;l&#8217;sh kRt&#8217;ndn, Waht about Gaza&#8230;?</p>
<p>Gaza, or in Hebrew, Azza, is a city on the southern coastal plain of Eretz Yisrael (the Land of Israel, today Medinat Yisrael, or the modern nation State of Israel). </p>
<p>In Biblical times, G-d gave this Holy Land as a gift, as an eternal covenant that can never, ever be broken, to the Children of Israel. This is clearly documented in the Deed of Trust to the land, which is the Bible. </p>
<p>Marking the southern border of ancient, Biblical Canaan, its original inhabitants were a group of people known as the Avvites. This distinct group of people is now extinct. </p>
<p>It was captured and conquered by the men of the tribe of Judah (Judges 1:18) and was included in the allotment given to that tribe (Josh. 15:47). It remained in the possession of the Canaanites until the beginning of the 12th century BCE, when it became occupied by the Philistines. It was part of the Philistine Pentapolis, the southern-most city in that league of five cities (Josh. 13:3 1 Sam. 6:17; Jer. 25.20). As part of the Philistine Pentapolis, Gaza played an important role in the story of Samson (Judges 13-16). </p>
<p>Just to set the factual and historical record straight, the Philistines were a Mediterranean seafaring nation that is completely extinct today. They are not one and the same people as the Arab nation and people calling themselves “Palestinians” today. These Arabs are the descendants of Ishmael. The name “Palestine” and “Palestinians” evolved from the name Philistia, which was given to the area by the Roman conquerors as an insult to the Jewish people. The name has been hijacked by the Arabs to lay a false claim to a land that does not belong to them Biblically, historically, legally, morally or rightfully. </p>
<p>The Philistines, a distinct people, are also now extinct. </p>
<p>It was the only city in its area to oppose Alexander the Great during 332 BCE. Later on, it was an outpost of the Ptolemies, who were the ruling power in Egypt during the Hellenistic period, until its capture in 98 BCE by Assyria’s Antiochus III, the Seuclid king in control of an empire.</p>
<p>The city was subsequently attacked and reconquered by Jonathan the Hasmonean during 145 BCE (1 Macc. 11:61-62). </p>
<p>Pompey restored the city and Galbinus, also a Roman official, rebuilt the city (circa 57 BCE).<br />
King Herod the Great held the city for a short time, but after his death, it came under the authority of the Roman proconsul of Syria. It flourished as a Roman city and remained a center for the Jewish community and the emerging Christian community throughout the Roman era (963 BCE through 324 CE), and continued into the Byzantine period, 324 CE through 1453 CE.<br />
Gaza remained a centre of pilgrimages in Eretz Yisrael during the Byzantine period.</p>
<p>In a great battle fought near Gaza in 635 CE, the Arabs vanquished the Byzantines; the city itself fell soon afterward. It remained the seat of the governor of the Negev, as is known from the Nessana Papyri. </p>
<p>Then, again, there were a succession of attackers, conquerors and occupiers of Jewish Gaza.<br />
Despite the fact that there have been many foreign occupations of Gaza, the territory belongs to the Jewish people. </p>
<p>There can be no honest dispute who this land belongs to Biblically, historically, legally, morally, and rightfully &#8211; the Children of Israel.</p>
<p>King Baldwin I of Jerusalem occupied the city, which was known in Crusader occupation times as Gadres. From the time of Baldwin III (1152 CE), it was a Templar stronghold. In 1170, it fell to Saladin. Under Mamluk occupation and rule, Gaza was capital of a district.<br />
After the destruction of Gaza by the Crusaders, the Jewish community ceased to exist.<br />
Nothing more was heard about Gaza until the 14th century. Meshullam of Volterra found 60 Jewish householders there during 1481 CE. All the wine of Gaza was produced by the Jews.</p>
<p>Gaza flourished under Ottoman rule. The Jewish community was once again flourishing and prosperous during the 16th and 17th centuries. </p>
<p>The Karaite Samuel ben David found a Rabbanite synagogue there in 1641 (vis Ginzei Yisrael be-St. Petersburg, ed. by J. Gurland, 1865). In the 16th century, there was a bet din and a yeshiva in Gaza. </p>
<p>In 1665, on the occasion of Shabbtai Zevi’s visit to Gaza, the city became a center of the messianic movement. One of his principle disciples was Nathan of Gaza.<br />
The city of Gaza was briefly militarily occupied once again, this time by Napoleon in 1799.<br />
In the 19th century, the city of Gaza declined. The Jews that were concentrated there were mostly barley merchants. They bartered with the Bedouins for barley, which they exported to the beer breweries of Europe. </p>
<p>Gaza was a Turkish stronghold during World War I. Two British attacks made on Gaza during 1916-17 failed and it was finally taken during a flanking movement by Allenby. Under British Mandatory occupation and rule, Gaza developed slowly. The last Jews living in Gaza left the town as result of the Arab anti-Jewish disturbances and massacres that took place during 1929.<br />
In 1946, Gaza’s population was estimated at 19,500, all Muslim except for 720 Christians.</p>
<p>During Israel’s defensive War of Independence, when five Arab armies invaded the reestablished Jewish homeland with the intent of its annihilation, the invading Egyptian army attacked, conquered and occupied Gaza. Israel defeated its attackers and reconquered its rightful land. </p>
<p>The town, together with the newly created Gaza Strip, was put under Egyptian administration by the armistice agreement of 1949. The influx of Arab refugees, who were told by the Arab aggressors that they could soon return after the Jews “were driven into the sea,” later swelled the city’s population at least fourfold. Bear in mind that most of the Arabs living in Eretz Yisrael at the time only came in the middle to late 1920s to escape economic hardship and political persecution by their own people. </p>
<p>The 1967 census showed that 87,793 Arab inhabitants and settlers lived in Gaza City proper, while only 30,479 lived in the refugee camp created by the Arabs’ call for the annihilation of the Jewish nation-state. The latter lived within the municipal boundaries of Gaza. Of this number, 1,649 were Christians and the rest were Muslims. </p>
<p>Now, we can compare this with the number of Egypt’s Jews who were forcibly expelled in the “Forgotten Exodus”, whose properties were confiscated, who were brutally beaten, robbed, tortured and sometimes murdered.</p>
<p>More ancient evidence to consider.</p>
<p>In 1965, a mosaic pavement was discovered by the Egyptian Department of Antiquities. This mosaic, dated 508/9, was uncovered on the seashore of Gaza’s harbor. Its figures include one of King David as Orpheus, dressed in Byzantine royal garments and playing the harp. The name “David” in Hebrew letters appears above it. A Greek inscription at the center of the floor, which mentions the names of two donors (Menahem and Jesse) of the mosaic to the “holy place” and the name David, testifies that a synagogue stood there.</p>
<p>In 1967, A. Ovadiah excavated the area and discovered a synagogue from the sixth century CE.</p>
<p>Archaeological evidence supports the Biblical premise of a continuous Jewish presence in Gaza, from the late Bronze Period until the Byzantine Period (circa 1500 BCE through 632 CE).</p>
<p>Evidence of a considerable Jewish presence in Gaza during the Talmudic period is provided also by a relief of a menorah, a shofar, a lulav and an etrog, which appears on a pillar of the Great Mosque of Gaza, along with various Hebrew and Greek inscriptions.</p>
<p>Oh, I should probably add that most of the above is derived from books (y’all remember books, right?) —but I can provide internet sources as well.</p>
<p>Critical analysis (hell, just reading it) will indicate the deponent (myself) is far from impartial.</p>
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		<title>By: Purple Avenger</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/11/27/jerusalem-by-halves/comment-page-1/#comment-41143</link>
		<dc:creator>Purple Avenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You know where their heart lies, and it is not in making a better life for the beleaguered Palestinian people or in making “peace” with the Zionist Entity.&lt;/i&gt;

The Palis are at their core a masochistic death cult.  No opportunity goes ungrasped with those people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You know where their heart lies, and it is not in making a better life for the beleaguered Palestinian people or in making “peace” with the Zionist Entity.</i></p>
<p>The Palis are at their core a masochistic death cult.  No opportunity goes ungrasped with those people.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/11/27/jerusalem-by-halves/comment-page-1/#comment-41124</link>
		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recently I read a couple of essays.

One noting that Israelis vacating settlements in Gaza didn&#039;t stop the rocket attacks into Israel.

Recently, Hamas bragged that it is better equipped than ever with longer range rockets and missiles.  You know where their heart lies, and it is &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; in making a better life for the beleaguered Palestinian people or in making &quot;peace&quot; with the Zionist Entity.

(Israel as a state isn&#039;t acknowledged as even existing)

Abbas is weak and (I also read) only manages to hold onto his West Bank position as a function of the presence of IDF forces in the West Bank.

If Israel makes more land concessions (sheba farms, golan heights), excuse me for believing that these would only be seen as &quot;wins&quot; and encouragement by Hezbollah to the north and Hamas to the west.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently I read a couple of essays.</p>
<p>One noting that Israelis vacating settlements in Gaza didn&#8217;t stop the rocket attacks into Israel.</p>
<p>Recently, Hamas bragged that it is better equipped than ever with longer range rockets and missiles.  You know where their heart lies, and it is <b>not</b> in making a better life for the beleaguered Palestinian people or in making &#8220;peace&#8221; with the Zionist Entity.</p>
<p>(Israel as a state isn&#8217;t acknowledged as even existing)</p>
<p>Abbas is weak and (I also read) only manages to hold onto his West Bank position as a function of the presence of IDF forces in the West Bank.</p>
<p>If Israel makes more land concessions (sheba farms, golan heights), excuse me for believing that these would only be seen as &#8220;wins&#8221; and encouragement by Hezbollah to the north and Hamas to the west.</p>
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		<title>By: tanstaafl</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/11/27/jerusalem-by-halves/comment-page-1/#comment-41123</link>
		<dc:creator>tanstaafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 17:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But who can moderate Hamas, and why would Hamas moderate?...And the Saudis are the one force that has serious leverage with Hamas, because they underwrite much of Hamas’ operations. Hamas is a Sunni Islamist group and as such has a sympathetic audience in Riyadh. Indeed, in many ways, Hamas is the Saudi answer to the secular Fatah. Therefore, if anyone can ultimately deliver Hamas, it would be the Saudis. But why would they?&lt;/i&gt;

In my (not humble enough) opinion,  no one can moderate Hamas.

Especially the Saudis, who can hardly moderate factions within Saudi Arabia itself.  
 (&quot;the royals&quot; desperately fearing challenges to their own monopoly and power)

Not mentioned is the fact of  Iran&#039;s current underwriting of money and material for Hamas.  

Sunni Hamas might ideologically  think Iran&#039;s shi&#039;ites &quot;infidels&quot;, but that doesn&#039;t seem to matter in their common goal for the destruction of the &lt;i&gt;Zionist entity&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But who can moderate Hamas, and why would Hamas moderate?&#8230;And the Saudis are the one force that has serious leverage with Hamas, because they underwrite much of Hamas’ operations. Hamas is a Sunni Islamist group and as such has a sympathetic audience in Riyadh. Indeed, in many ways, Hamas is the Saudi answer to the secular Fatah. Therefore, if anyone can ultimately deliver Hamas, it would be the Saudis. But why would they?</i></p>
<p>In my (not humble enough) opinion,  no one can moderate Hamas.</p>
<p>Especially the Saudis, who can hardly moderate factions within Saudi Arabia itself.<br />
 (&#8221;the royals&#8221; desperately fearing challenges to their own monopoly and power)</p>
<p>Not mentioned is the fact of  Iran&#8217;s current underwriting of money and material for Hamas.  </p>
<p>Sunni Hamas might ideologically  think Iran&#8217;s shi&#8217;ites &#8220;infidels&#8221;, but that doesn&#8217;t seem to matter in their common goal for the destruction of the <i>Zionist entity</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: RebeccaH</title>
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		<dc:creator>RebeccaH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thoughtful analysis by Stratfor.  Let&#039;s hope it&#039;s on target.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thoughtful analysis by Stratfor.  Let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;s on target.</p>
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		<title>By: The Thunder Run</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2007/11/27/jerusalem-by-halves/comment-page-1/#comment-41111</link>
		<dc:creator>The Thunder Run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 16:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>A short recon of whats out there that might draw your attention, updated throughout the day&#8230;</p>
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