Immigration Advocates Attacked

Yanqui borderistas seek to deprive immigration advocates of their right to launch ball bearings, rocks, bottles and bricks into San Diego. AP:  

SAN DIEGO - The Border Patrol says its agents were attacked nearly 1,000 times during a one-year period along the Mexican border, typically by assailants hurling rocks, bottles and bricks. Now the agency is responding with tear gas and powerful, pepper-spray weapons, including firing into Mexico.

 

I know it’s not PC, but has anyone thought of shooting a couple of slingshot-wielding ball-bearing shooters?  

Oh. It turns out they have.

U.S. officials say the new tactics may spare lives. In March, an agent shot and killed a 20-year-old Mexican man whose arm was cocked back in Calexico, Calif., where rock attacks have soared in the last year. Two years ago, an agent fatally shot a rock thrower at the San Diego-Tijuana border.

No criminal charges were filed in either case.

Well, there’s your problem. If the Mexican authorities would just start arresting some of these rock-throwers. Not clear why the gringos are so anxious to spare the lives of human-smuggling criminal gangs that fire ball-bearings and throw bricks across the border at U.S. government agents, however. Like John Lennon used to say, “Give shooting them a chance!” Could prompt some action by lackadaisical Mexican cops, help them overcome any conflict of interest issues. 

But let’s think this thing through.  If future undocumented Americans are to be encouraged to  fulfill their dreams through an expedited process of bureacracy avoidance, then the Border Patrol is depriving them of their human rights when it seeks to defend itself from immigration advocates with slingshots.  Sounds like time for a Congressional hearing. Mexican cops, meanwhile, should be commended for taking firm inaction against U.S. oppression of visa-free border-crossage. 

Unfortunately, a Mexican shantytown is caught in the middle. Most seem to recognize the wrongfulness of gringo imperialista cross-border incursions, but here’s one who just doesn’t get it: 

… Jose Arias, fled with his wife a few blocks away, where paramedics checked their blood pressure. He said he sympathizes with the Border Patrol because Mexican authorities do nothing to prevent people from hurling rocks over the fence at agents.

Malkin: House acts to streamline border-crossage.

Democratic Daily acknowledges having trouble focusing.

Topics: illegals

  Posted by Jules Crittenden at 9:18 am on Tuesday, December 18, 2007

18 Responses to “Immigration Advocates Attacked”

  1. The_Real_JeffS Says:

    5.56mm slugs in exchange for ball bearings and rocks. Sounds like a fair trade to me.

  2. T-Ray Says:

    If this doesn’t point out that the way to tackle the illegal immigration problem is to go to the source, I don’t know what is. The corporations/businesses that want cheap labor need to pay a price for their hiring practices. I KNOW it is much easier to take care of this with a database attack at the source of the problem, rather than some sort of violence escalation at the border. If the whole loop-hole visa scheme were simplified and monitored, there would be less reason to come here looking for work. If corporations were to offer living wages American citizens would be filling these jobs. No, corporations ARE REQUIRED BY LAW to increase profits and cutting expenditures is always the ignorant, short-sighted choice for those who refuse to cut exorbitant salaries.

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  4. RebeccaH Says:

    The corporations/businesses that want cheap labor need to pay a price for their hiring practices.

    I agree with T-Ray.

    Short of that, we should take a page out of the Israelis’ book and build a honkin’ big concrete wall with checkpoints. Not only would our border agents be better protected, but the tourist flow to Mexico would be substantially bottlenecked, which would certainly get the attention of their so-called authorities.

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  7. T-Ray Says:

    @RebeccaH
    Short of that, we should take a page out of the Israelis’ book and build a honkin’ big concrete wall with checkpoints. Not only would our border agents be better protected, but the tourist flow to Mexico would be substantially bottlenecked, which would certainly get the attention of their so-called authorities.

    ……because of all the peace and harmony being experienced in Israel, The West Bank and Gaza Strip??? We need more violence and intolerance here for sure.

  8. Vanguard of the Commentariat Says:

    “The corporations/businesses that want cheap labor need to pay a price for their hiring practices.”

    But no more so than US and state government agencies who actively accomodate illegal aliens by providing benefits like health care, education and relief. Part of the draw here for illegal immigration is not only better paying jobs but all of the benefits of the welfare state, which appear to be freely offered under the guise of non-discrimination. Both the private and public sector are colluding in this, so they should equally held to account.

    Americans are the most giving, altruistic people on earth, but we are being played for saps on this issue.

  9. The_Real_JeffS Says:

    We need more violence and intolerance here for sure.

    I believe the deaths from terrorist attacks in Israel has gone from 450 in 2004 to 33 in 2006. So building a wall would decrease violence and intolerance here in the US. Certainly the criminal gangs would have a harder time working the US-Mexican border, eh?

    And at least the rock throwing Mexicans could vent their frustration on a concrete barrier, not other human beings…..thus decreasing ammunition expenditure by border guards. Just a thought.

  10. T-Ray Says:

    @ The_Real_JeffS

    If that is “as good as it gets” or OK with you then so be it. I just have always held the belief that we all could be better than that. It is a sad thought to think that a better world is provided through hiding behind a fence. It really would put an exclamation point behind the us and them.

  11. OmegaPaladin Says:

    “It really would put an exclamation point behind the us and them.”

    Yeah, so what? US AND THEM!!! Good enough for me.

    They break the law flagrantly, so they should be punished. Their employers should be punished as well, with ruthless fines. Control the threat at multiple points.

  12. T-Ray Says:

    So Omega you are against Telcom amnesty? Yes
    What about constitutional violations? We should pursue and prosecute. Yes?
    How about war crimes, war profiteering, crimes against humanity? Are these punishable or do we only pursue “them”?

  13. saltydog Says:

    It is one thing to point fingers at corporations and the government, but the situation is much more complicated than that, due to government interference in business, and businesses who prefer government protections and favors than the open market where they’d have to actually compete.

    When you start talking about fines for corporations you are ignoring the small businesses who depend on foreign workers to stay in business. My brother-in-law owns a small drywall business in a rural area. He paid well and hired local people. He spent his time going to the jails of the various small towns around him to bail out workers who drank their wages, or spent his time picking up workers who crashed their cars while drunk or on drugs. Others showed up whenever they damned well pleased–confident in the knowledge that there was no one else available to do the work. After several years of this, he finally began hiring Mexicans, taking their papers at face value. He paid them as well as he did the Americans who wouldn’t work, and now has a healthy and growing business. He isn’t rich, but he can finally provide a few extras for his family and isn’t constantly frantic about the 1st of the month coming. The high standards he demands for work done in his name are finally being kept without his having to work 20 hours a day, redoing work that he’d already paid to incompetents.

    That is a story that I’m sure can be repeated by many, many other small businessmen. They are burdened by rules and regulations and tax codes that make it almost impossible to succeed. This is just one more.

    There is a great deal wrong with our immigration policies. The giving of welfare benefits to illegals is a consequence of the principle that the government ought to be giving welfare benefits in the first place. We do this without any thought to what it means to take money from those who could otherwise afford to take care of themselves.

    I remember a neighbor who, as she stood smoking one cigarette after another, was complaining that her check (for her 5 children, each born to a different father, none of whom were still in evidence) was late and she was going to have to go to the trouble of traveling down to the welfare office AGAIN to straighten out the problem. I told her to skip the middle men and go stand out in the middle of the street and demand her share of her neighbors pay check, as was her due. I’ll leave it to you to imagine the reactions of both she and the other neighbors standing there.

    My point is that all of these grand sounding solutions are to problems that were made by the government’s intrusion into our lives, for whatever vaunted altruistic reason. All we do is give power over our lives to others–to the bureaucrats you have to deal with whenever you want to do anything. The politicos never come out and say they made a mistake, they just tweak a “solution,” then another solution to the problems caused by the tweaking of the first, until we no longer even question the wisdom of the action that caused all the problems. We see them doing it now with health care, where their solution is to completely enslave the medical profession on the basis of our need of health care, and put all of our lives in danger because of it. But then, we no longer recognize slavery as slavery, do we. We’ve allowed it to be defined out of existence.

    And who cares about rich doctors anyway, the bastards. Ever question why corporations and anyone else who manages to produce what we want are vilified and made into ogres?

    My apologies for seeming to go so far off topic. I haven’t, really, but I don’t blame anyone for thinking I have. All of these things are of a piece, and the piece is an incompetent government that seeks to proscribe everything in our lives, including what we eat, how we live, and how we do business, and what we are allowed to say out loud and, thus, what we think. Until people realize that giving such people the power over our lives, rather than to protect our liberty, there isn’t much to be done. It is what Jefferson called the American Mind that must recognize what is being done in the name of whatever variant of collectivism and altruism any particular group chooses to use against us.

  14. T-Ray Says:

    Another thought; What about Madagascar and other countries who have to abide with the disenfranchisement of their natural resources. Should third world countries build walls to keep people away from their resources? Ya know, protect what is theirs.

  15. T-Ray Says:

    Saltydog, you make a legitimate point IMO. I also think that the whole system has been over-lawed and convoluted with intent. I do break from your line of reasoning that illegal workers are the answer. In the business laws are many debilitating confines to small business, in order to strengthen corporate positions. The whole system (any topic) could be parsed down to a simple framework of laws to provide for a level playing field, but once again it requires integrity and an ability to say “back to the drawing board” (not water board).
    It is quite a trait of our citizenry to find a loop-hole or “bendable” place in all laws. What ever the outcome, it is painfully evident to me that “We the people” have become “We the corporations”, or shorter still, give me the money.

  16. AW1 Tim Says:

    Well, we could solve this problem quickly enough. Dig a trench about 20 feet wide and 20 feet deep, along the entire border. Fill it with all of our nuclear waste. It’d be easy to find thise who snuck across it. Just follow the corpses.

    Seriously, though, illegals are illegal. They need to be rounded up and deported, regardless of the cost. Take fingerprints of them and authorise the government to execute them on capture if they are caught in the US again without proper visas, green cards, etc.

    I am fed up with the bullshit lies about “doing work Americans won’t do” that’s a G@d-damned lie and always has been. Illegals are underbidding US workers for jobs, and it ought to be a capital offense for any employer caught knowingly hiring them.

    Build a wall and place mines along it. Place guard towers behind it and authorise the use of deadly force. Renounce the Posse Comitatas act and place the militarty along the border. BOTH borders.

    Put in place laws that forbid the use of public funds to assist illegal immigrants. No public welfare, no schooling, no medical assistance, no nothing. Put serious fines and jail time on anyone caught assisting illegals. Prohibit federal funds from being given to any town or city that establishes sanctuary laws or prohibits or otherwise restricts it’s police force from assisiting in the arrest and detention of illegals.

    I’m fed up with this crap. Build the walls. Deploy the troops. Spend whatever it takes to round up and deport all illegals. ‘Nuff said.

  17. saltydog Says:

    T-Ray, you and I are going to have to agree to disagree about corporations. And I disagree on virtually every point.

  18. pst314 Says:

    “the disenfranchisement of their natural resources”

    What, they allowed natural resources to vote?

    “This word, I do not think it means what you think it means.”

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