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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57167</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Also opted not to explore 7 Pillars of Wisdom’s ground-breaking GLBT issues.&quot;

There is no homosexuality in Islam. Amadrasdinnerjacket told us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Also opted not to explore 7 Pillars of Wisdom’s ground-breaking GLBT issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>There is no homosexuality in Islam. Amadrasdinnerjacket told us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jules Crittenden</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57137</link>
		<dc:creator>Jules Crittenden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, my mistake, Robert. Thanks also for reminding me about Alec Guinness in blackface. I had him confused with the sheik in Ben Hur, so did not pursue that line of snark. Also opted not to explore 7 Pillars of Wisdom&#039;s ground-breaking GLBT issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, my mistake, Robert. Thanks also for reminding me about Alec Guinness in blackface. I had him confused with the sheik in Ben Hur, so did not pursue that line of snark. Also opted not to explore 7 Pillars of Wisdom&#8217;s ground-breaking GLBT issues.</p>
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		<title>By: saltydog</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57101</link>
		<dc:creator>saltydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 08:59:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the sketch of the history, Robert.

One thing the movie pointed out is the bane of tribalism that has held these people back.  The intrigues are truly Byzantine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the sketch of the history, Robert.</p>
<p>One thing the movie pointed out is the bane of tribalism that has held these people back.  The intrigues are truly Byzantine.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57080</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jules: the Lawrence of Arabia connection to Saudi Arabia is more complicated that that.

Wikipedia Hashemite:

From the 10th century onwards, the Sharif (religious leader) of Mecca and its Emir was by traditional agreement a Hashemite. Before World War I, Hussein bin Ali of the Hashemite Dhawu-&#039;Awn clan ruled the Hejaz on behalf of the Ottoman sultan. ... In 1908, Hussein bin Ali was appointed Emir of Mecca.

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Hussein bin Ali had five sons:

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    * Abdullah, later became the king of Transjordan, and whose descendants rule the ... Kingdom of Jordan.
    * Faisal, was briefly proclaimed King of Syria, and ended up becoming King of Iraq. ...

Faisal was portrayed in the Movie by Alec Guinness.

Wikipedia Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca

When Hussein declared himself king of the Hejaz [the province on the west side of Arabia that includes Mecca], he also declared himself king of all Arabs ... . This aggravated his conflict with Ibn Saud, with whom he had fought before WWI on the side of the Ottomans in 1910. Two days after the Turkish Caliphate was abolished ... on March 3, 1924, Hussein declared himself Caliph ... he was soon ousted and driven out of Arabia by the Saudis, a rival clan that had no interest in the Caliphate. Saud defeated Hussein in 1924. ...

Though the British had supported Hussein from the start of the Arab Revolt ..., they elected not to help Hussein repel the Saudi attack, which eventually took Mecca, Medina, and Jeddah. He was then forced to flee ...
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The Wahabis were clients of the family Sa&#039;ud. Even if the Hashemites still controlled the Hejaz, the Sa&#039;uds would still have the oil because it is on the east side of the peninsula, which they controlled before the Arab Revolt.

But, Lawrence did not do anything to bring the Wahabis to the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules: the Lawrence of Arabia connection to Saudi Arabia is more complicated that that.</p>
<p>Wikipedia Hashemite:</p>
<p>From the 10th century onwards, the Sharif (religious leader) of Mecca and its Emir was by traditional agreement a Hashemite. Before World War I, Hussein bin Ali of the Hashemite Dhawu-&#8217;Awn clan ruled the Hejaz on behalf of the Ottoman sultan. &#8230; In 1908, Hussein bin Ali was appointed Emir of Mecca.</p>
<p>***<br />
Hussein bin Ali had five sons:</p>
<p>***<br />
    * Abdullah, later became the king of Transjordan, and whose descendants rule the &#8230; Kingdom of Jordan.<br />
    * Faisal, was briefly proclaimed King of Syria, and ended up becoming King of Iraq. &#8230;</p>
<p>Faisal was portrayed in the Movie by Alec Guinness.</p>
<p>Wikipedia Hussein bin Ali, Sharif of Mecca</p>
<p>When Hussein declared himself king of the Hejaz [the province on the west side of Arabia that includes Mecca], he also declared himself king of all Arabs &#8230; . This aggravated his conflict with Ibn Saud, with whom he had fought before WWI on the side of the Ottomans in 1910. Two days after the Turkish Caliphate was abolished &#8230; on March 3, 1924, Hussein declared himself Caliph &#8230; he was soon ousted and driven out of Arabia by the Saudis, a rival clan that had no interest in the Caliphate. Saud defeated Hussein in 1924. &#8230;</p>
<p>Though the British had supported Hussein from the start of the Arab Revolt &#8230;, they elected not to help Hussein repel the Saudi attack, which eventually took Mecca, Medina, and Jeddah. He was then forced to flee &#8230;<br />
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<p>The Wahabis were clients of the family Sa&#8217;ud. Even if the Hashemites still controlled the Hejaz, the Sa&#8217;uds would still have the oil because it is on the east side of the peninsula, which they controlled before the Arab Revolt.</p>
<p>But, Lawrence did not do anything to bring the Wahabis to the world.</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57074</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHIT! rhymes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SHIT! rhymes</p>
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		<title>By: El Cid</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2008/02/25/epic-in-the-works/comment-page-1/#comment-57073</link>
		<dc:creator>El Cid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Feb 2008 03:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cruel Jules...Hey that kinda ryhmes...But a damn good ear shot...LMAO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cruel Jules&#8230;Hey that kinda ryhmes&#8230;But a damn good ear shot&#8230;LMAO.</p>
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