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		<title>By: Something in the Water &#124; Neptunus Lex</title>
		<link>http://www.julescrittenden.com/2009/04/19/hasta-la-service-academies/comment-page-1/#comment-79472</link>
		<dc:creator>Something in the Water &#124; Neptunus Lex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with the opportunity to tweak the establishment in the 500 words or less. I&#8217;m quite sure that the rest of us spent far more time rebutting his little foray into military education than he spent drafting [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the opportunity to tweak the establishment in the 500 words or less. I&#8217;m quite sure that the rest of us spent far more time rebutting his little foray into military education than he spent drafting [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Surls</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Surls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just ask David Petraeus, a Princeton PhD.&quot;

if I want to talk about international relations, I&#039;ll talk to General Petraeus.  If I want to talk about killing people and breaking things...I&#039;d rather consult with George Patton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just ask David Petraeus, a Princeton PhD.&#8221;</p>
<p>if I want to talk about international relations, I&#8217;ll talk to General Petraeus.  If I want to talk about killing people and breaking things&#8230;I&#8217;d rather consult with George Patton.</p>
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		<title>By: cjjafrotc475</title>
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		<dc:creator>cjjafrotc475</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:07:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#  richard mcenroe Says:
April 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm

Based on the conduct of recent West Pointers such as Powell, Clarke, Eaton and Zinni, I’ve made noises about turning the damned place into a museum and beefing up OCS. But if WAPO thinks the same thing, it’s likely a bad idea…


Okay...I&#039;ll bite:

Powell:  ROTC City College of NY
Zinni:  Marine Corps’ Platoon Leader Class at Villanova University
Eaton:  USAF officer, but graduated  West Point
Clarke:  West Point

CJ, Lt Col, USAF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#  richard mcenroe Says:<br />
April 20th, 2009 at 4:13 pm</p>
<p>Based on the conduct of recent West Pointers such as Powell, Clarke, Eaton and Zinni, I’ve made noises about turning the damned place into a museum and beefing up OCS. But if WAPO thinks the same thing, it’s likely a bad idea…</p>
<p>Okay&#8230;I&#8217;ll bite:</p>
<p>Powell:  ROTC City College of NY<br />
Zinni:  Marine Corps’ Platoon Leader Class at Villanova University<br />
Eaton:  USAF officer, but graduated  West Point<br />
Clarke:  West Point</p>
<p>CJ, Lt Col, USAF</p>
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		<title>By: TLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>TLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This nonsensical idea comes up every ten years or so. USMA and USNA have been around a long time and the success of their graduates speaks for itself.  Furthermore, the military remains very tradition bound, and on that basis alone Ricks&#039; proposal will go nowhere. 

My wife and I were both direct commission officers (Army MC). We respectively graduated from the two undergraduate colleges attended by our current president. When our son told us he was interested in a military career, he was strongly DISCOURAGED from considering either one of our alma maters. He&#039;s currently finishing his plebe year at the Academy and knows he made the right choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This nonsensical idea comes up every ten years or so. USMA and USNA have been around a long time and the success of their graduates speaks for itself.  Furthermore, the military remains very tradition bound, and on that basis alone Ricks&#8217; proposal will go nowhere. </p>
<p>My wife and I were both direct commission officers (Army MC). We respectively graduated from the two undergraduate colleges attended by our current president. When our son told us he was interested in a military career, he was strongly DISCOURAGED from considering either one of our alma maters. He&#8217;s currently finishing his plebe year at the Academy and knows he made the right choice.</p>
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		<title>By: GaBoy61</title>
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		<dc:creator>GaBoy61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 23:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a service academy graduate, and when I tried to enlist or get a commission for service in Iraq or Afghanistan, I was told I was too old. So, I am just a concerned citizen. However, I can offer a useful perspective on the &quot;quality&quot; of civilian universities versus military schools. 

I&#039;ve been a self-taught historian for over 35 years (since boyhood), and some years ago I decided to get formal training in the subject. If what I have seen is in any way indicative of the overall quality of civilian institutions and their instruction, it would be a very serious mistake indeed to abolish the service academies. 

Civilian universities and colleges share fewer and fewer values with the military, and traditional Americans generally, than at any time in our history. 

Of course, there are exceptions, but college faculty today are overwhelmingly leftist, to radical leftist-Marxist. Post-modernism is the dominant intellectual current, alongside feminism and deoncstructionism. Political correctness has run amok. Middle-aged white males need not apply; female and/or minority candidates are preferred. &quot;Diversity&quot; is a word one hears frequently on college campuses; everyone says they are for it - unless it applies to intellectual diversity, that is. If you are looking for a position in the academy, disclosing that one is conservative and/or Republican is career suicide. Ditto supporting Israel, or being vocal about the threat of Islamic jihad. Lastly, being unashamedly pro-American, pro-freedom, pro-free enterpise, pro-gun, and pro-life are also &quot;the kiss of death&quot; in many departments - especially in the humanities. 

I know a great deal about military history, and thus can say with certainty that many if not most civlian historians are unqualified to teach this subject. It has been out-of-favor on campus for many years, and is no longer taught as a routine part of a well-rounded history education. 

In a nutshell, closing our service academies is a bad idea, given their historic role as repositories of many of our best traditional martial and cultural values. Personally, I&#039;d like to see the civilian academic world grow more like, not less similar to, the service culture. 

Speaking as a would-be citizen soldier, I&#039;d like to see the military expand opportunities for mid-career professionals to become military leaders, either NCOs or officers. Since we are talking about older entrants, perhaps that would mean doing it via shorter length AD or reserve terms of service. That means upping the age cutoffs for entering the services, and reconfiguring how officers and NCOs are selected and trained. There&#039;s a lot of good, unused talent out there that could do a lot of good in the military if these reforms were made. There are practical hurdles to overcome, but I&#039;m convinced these could be managed successfully and the return would be sustantial in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a service academy graduate, and when I tried to enlist or get a commission for service in Iraq or Afghanistan, I was told I was too old. So, I am just a concerned citizen. However, I can offer a useful perspective on the &#8220;quality&#8221; of civilian universities versus military schools. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a self-taught historian for over 35 years (since boyhood), and some years ago I decided to get formal training in the subject. If what I have seen is in any way indicative of the overall quality of civilian institutions and their instruction, it would be a very serious mistake indeed to abolish the service academies. </p>
<p>Civilian universities and colleges share fewer and fewer values with the military, and traditional Americans generally, than at any time in our history. </p>
<p>Of course, there are exceptions, but college faculty today are overwhelmingly leftist, to radical leftist-Marxist. Post-modernism is the dominant intellectual current, alongside feminism and deoncstructionism. Political correctness has run amok. Middle-aged white males need not apply; female and/or minority candidates are preferred. &#8220;Diversity&#8221; is a word one hears frequently on college campuses; everyone says they are for it &#8211; unless it applies to intellectual diversity, that is. If you are looking for a position in the academy, disclosing that one is conservative and/or Republican is career suicide. Ditto supporting Israel, or being vocal about the threat of Islamic jihad. Lastly, being unashamedly pro-American, pro-freedom, pro-free enterpise, pro-gun, and pro-life are also &#8220;the kiss of death&#8221; in many departments &#8211; especially in the humanities. </p>
<p>I know a great deal about military history, and thus can say with certainty that many if not most civlian historians are unqualified to teach this subject. It has been out-of-favor on campus for many years, and is no longer taught as a routine part of a well-rounded history education. </p>
<p>In a nutshell, closing our service academies is a bad idea, given their historic role as repositories of many of our best traditional martial and cultural values. Personally, I&#8217;d like to see the civilian academic world grow more like, not less similar to, the service culture. </p>
<p>Speaking as a would-be citizen soldier, I&#8217;d like to see the military expand opportunities for mid-career professionals to become military leaders, either NCOs or officers. Since we are talking about older entrants, perhaps that would mean doing it via shorter length AD or reserve terms of service. That means upping the age cutoffs for entering the services, and reconfiguring how officers and NCOs are selected and trained. There&#8217;s a lot of good, unused talent out there that could do a lot of good in the military if these reforms were made. There are practical hurdles to overcome, but I&#8217;m convinced these could be managed successfully and the return would be sustantial in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: JORGXMCKIE</title>
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		<dc:creator>JORGXMCKIE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:33:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coupla things:

1) &quot;It is the classic fallacy of our time that a moron run through a university and decorated with a Ph.D. will thereby cease to be a moron.&quot;   H.L. Mencken

2) Where did Ricks get his high-powered education that he doesn&#039;t know the argumentum ad ignorantiam?  Some Podunk Community College?

He has beclowned himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coupla things:</p>
<p>1) &#8220;It is the classic fallacy of our time that a moron run through a university and decorated with a Ph.D. will thereby cease to be a moron.&#8221;   H.L. Mencken</p>
<p>2) Where did Ricks get his high-powered education that he doesn&#8217;t know the argumentum ad ignorantiam?  Some Podunk Community College?</p>
<p>He has beclowned himself.</p>
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		<title>By: richard mcenroe</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mcenroe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Based on  the conduct of recent West Pointers such as Powell, Clarke, Eaton and Zinni, I&#039;ve made noises about turning the damned place into a museum and beefing up OCS.  But if WAPO thinks the same thing, it&#039;s likely a bad idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Based on  the conduct of recent West Pointers such as Powell, Clarke, Eaton and Zinni, I&#8217;ve made noises about turning the damned place into a museum and beefing up OCS.  But if WAPO thinks the same thing, it&#8217;s likely a bad idea&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Concerning a lack of Ph.D&#039;s -

I have a son attending West Point. Some of his social science faculty members - Academy Professors and Civilian Faculty - are listed here.  Most have PH.D&#039;s, even from those fancy ROTC loving schools like Princeton, Columbia, Hopkins and even Harvard.

Guess these teachers had to make the choice between junior colleges or the Academy.

Guess Ricks didn&#039;t have time to check out these very public facts.

http://www.dean.usma.edu/departments/sosh/3_Faculty/faculty.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerning a lack of Ph.D&#8217;s -</p>
<p>I have a son attending West Point. Some of his social science faculty members &#8211; Academy Professors and Civilian Faculty &#8211; are listed here.  Most have PH.D&#8217;s, even from those fancy ROTC loving schools like Princeton, Columbia, Hopkins and even Harvard.</p>
<p>Guess these teachers had to make the choice between junior colleges or the Academy.</p>
<p>Guess Ricks didn&#8217;t have time to check out these very public facts.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dean.usma.edu/departments/sosh/3_Faculty/faculty.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dean.usma.edu/departments/sosh/3_Faculty/faculty.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GET RID OF THE SERVICE ACADEMIES IN FAVOR OF ROTC? But what about the schools that won&#8217;t allow ROTC&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Instapundit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; GET RID OF THE SERVICE ACADEMIES IN FAVOR OF ROTC? But what about the schools that won&#8217;t allow ROTC&#8230;</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] GET RID OF THE SERVICE ACADEMIES IN FAVOR OF ROTC? But what about the schools that won&#8217;t allow ROTC? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Liberty Pundit &#124; Close Down West Point?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberty Pundit &#124; Close Down West Point?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 07:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that, the obvious problem is, as Jules Crittenden points out, that a lot of liberal colleges aren&#8217;t allowing the ROTC in. A very, very bad [...]</description>
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