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By: Dirty Democrats » Prominent Republican Calls For Investigation of Damage Done to National Security By Obama’s Decision to Release CIA Memos

Sun, 26 Apr 2009 02:05:23 +0000

[...] Jules Crittenden believes Hoekstra is right: ‘It’s time for a special prosecutor, multi-million dollar investigation and possibly even impeachment and censure proceedings.’ Why wait? Let’s start now. [...]

By: MikeH

MikeH — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 22:57:38 +0000

Grimmy has it! The argument is now being waged over a redefined term. I was ‘tortured’ twice because I went through the gas chamber in Navy boot camp in ‘64 and Marine Corps boot camp in ‘73. I suffered no harm but was sure uncomfortable, which I guess is the current definition of torture.

Everyone in the discussion is using the term as it has been defined by those who have an axe to grind with the US. Even McCain is abusing the term and lord knows that he was subjected to the real thing because the enemy doesn’t give a damn about our semantic distinctions. And they use it for confessions and not intelligence.

By: AW1 Tim

AW1 Tim — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:22:16 +0000

GW,

I can assure you that you are not alone.

By: Grimmy

Grimmy — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 12:27:57 +0000

GW:

All that the enemy loving left have to accomplish is to achieve success with redefining the term “torture” to fit their agenda needs in the minds of enough of the public to allow the media to be used as a hostile propaganda weapon to demand prosecution.

That’s it. And, they’re winning at it. And they know it.

Every weak, piece of crap that starts referring to the “torture as necessary” is just another useful idiot. It wasn’t torture. Comes no where near actual torture. But, too many people are knuckling under and accepting that redefinition of the concept.

By: GW

GW — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 03:24:57 +0000

I read the OLC memos in full and with an open mind. My conclusion regarding the OLC memos was that they present colorable legal arguments that the enhanced interrogation techniques fell short of the legal definition of “torture.” though reasonable people could disagree. That said, as of yet, I have heard not a single principled argument in disagreement. I emphasize that because quite literally everyone I have seen and heard on the topic has cited no opposing precedent to support their conclusory assertions that the interrogation techniques were unlawful torture. At any rate, what Obama, Soros and the far left want to do now is, as they indicated prior to the election, criminalize their disagreement. I could imagine no greater threat to the fabric of our nation. Even the attempt to do this is going to set off a maelstrom the likes of which we have never seen in this country since, well, 1861 I would have to say.

As I see it, if Obama and his far left base succeed in successfully prosecuting the attorneys over this, then President Obama will have abandoned his most sacred duty – to support and defend the Constitution. That is the day the far left crosses the Rubicon and we cease to be a free nation. The day any one of the OLC attorneys are marched into prison because of a political disagreement can and should be the day a true civil war – one that involves violence – starts in this country. Trust me when I say that up until three days ago, never did I think it the remotest possibility that those words would ever pass my lips.

I wonder if I am alone in thinking this.

By: AW1 Tim

AW1 Tim — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 02:58:50 +0000

RebeccaH ,

I have to say, ma’am, that I really admire cut of your jib. :)

By: RebeccaH

RebeccaH — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 00:50:20 +0000

Part of me applauds the harsh techniques that were used against the conscienceless brutes who sought to kill our nation. Part of me recoils against any possiblity that we might become like them. But a whole lot of me wishes we could empty out Congress and hang the lot of those mewling, vote-whoring invertebrates.

By: Locutus

Locutus — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 23:55:48 +0000

If anyone is prosecuted for this, then not only should the Congressional “enablers” of the so-called torture be prosecuted, but so should members of the Obama administration, up to and including the President, who approved the release of the memos, thereby endangering our security. In fact, the release of the memos and consequences thereof is a far more serious offense than any possible “criminal” conduct of the lawyers who produced the memos, and in the event America is hit again by a terrorist attack that could arguably have been stopped through “enhanced interrogations,” then the legal and moral culpability of the persons who made these decisions will vastly outweigh that of the Bush administration counsel.

By: Mr. Bingley

Mr. Bingley — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:49:35 +0000

It’s just awful, and beyond parody.

By: AW1 Tim

AW1 Tim — Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:21:52 +0000

At this point, I am in complete favour of disbanding Congress, both houses, firing ALL of their staffs, and having a complete do-over. National elections all around in 2010. Considering the damage they have already done, I feel safe in asserting that nothing untoward will happen in the absence of that deliberative body, and that much good might instead be made available to the public through their removal.

The current level of bureaucracy should be more than sufficient to continue the machinations and day to day toiling of the government until the people can vest themselves, through elections, of a new body politic and set them to the task at hand, with the proper approbations regarding the excesses of their previous compatriots.

So i say, “Throw the bums out!” and find a better quality of Bums to represent us.